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I’m not sure if you’re aware, but this is largely a conspiracy theory concocted by the far right: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/23/white-farmers-t

I’m not sure if you’re aware, but this is largely a conspiracy theory concocted by the far right: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/23/white-farmers-trump-south-africa-tucker-carlson-far-right-influence https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/23/white-farmers-...

gubbrora 7y ago
That article is heavy on how "the other" is talking about this, but light on facts about the situation on the ground. Here is an article about the farm attacks https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/south-africa-white-farmers-plaasmoorde-cyril-ramaphosa-anc-economic-freedom-fighters-gabriel-stols-a8262306.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/south-africa...
- deogeo 7y ago
  It is very curious that an article so heavy on how others talk about something, wouldn't mention the leader of a major South African political party saying "We are not calling for the slaughter of white people‚ at least for now" [1]. A statement that was explicitly not commented on by the largest party. In fact, he received their support when he got in trouble for repeatedly singing "shoot the boer". Seems rather comparable to if the KKK had 10% of the senate in the US, and the tacit cooperation of one of the two major parties. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Freedom_Fighters#Anti-white_prejudice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Freedom_Fighters#Anti...
Rebelgecko 7y ago
The article doesn't really seem to back that up. Lots of the people pushing that theory are definitely alt-right types, but when the article doesn't present any facts to contradict them it doesn't make it seem like they're actually wrong. For some "conspiracy theories" it can be impossible to prove someone wrong, but there should be some pretty straightforward statistics to help figure out if this is bogus or not. FWIW it seems to be a commonly held belief by South Africans. The ones I know told me that in SA they won't stop at a red stoplight ("robot") in certain areas. The risk of getting carjacked and murdered is higher (or perceived to be higher) than the risk of getting in a deadly car crash when running a red light.
- deogeo 7y ago
  > but there should be some pretty straightforward statistics to help figure out if this is bogus or not. Sometimes they're not: https://www.thelocal.se/20180508/why-sweden-doesnt-keep-stats-on-ethnic-background-and-crime https://www.thelocal.se/20180508/why-sweden-doesnt-keep-stat...
  - spraak 7y ago
    Thanks for that, quite an interesting read.
adbge 7y ago
Even supposing that it's not happening in South Africa (ANC leaders are just singing about doing it [1]), land appropriation very much happened in neighboring Zimbabwe: "By 2013, every white-owned farm in Zimbabwe had been either expropriated or confirmed for future redistribution." [2] To bring us back to OP's question, property rights in Ghana are listed here [3] as "weak". [1]: https://www.reuters.com/article/ozatp-safrica-racism-20100330-idAFJOE62T0IM20100330 https://www.reuters.com/article/ozatp-safrica-racism-2010033... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_reform_in_Zimbabwe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_reform_in_Zimbabwe [3]: https://www.propertymarketsscorecard.com/countries/ghana/property-rights/ https://www.propertymarketsscorecard.com/countries/ghana/pro...

gubbrora 7y ago

That article is heavy on how "the other" is talking about this, but light on facts about the situation on the ground. Here is an article about the farm attacks https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/south-africa-white-farmers-plaasmoorde-cyril-ramaphosa-anc-economic-freedom-fighters-gabriel-stols-a8262306.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/south-africa...

deogeo 7y ago
It is very curious that an article so heavy on how others talk about something, wouldn't mention the leader of a major South African political party saying "We are not calling for the slaughter of white people‚ at least for now" [1]. A statement that was explicitly not commented on by the largest party. In fact, he received their support when he got in trouble for repeatedly singing "shoot the boer". Seems rather comparable to if the KKK had 10% of the senate in the US, and the tacit cooperation of one of the two major parties. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Freedom_Fighters#Anti-white_prejudice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Freedom_Fighters#Anti...

Rebelgecko 7y ago

The article doesn't really seem to back that up. Lots of the people pushing that theory are definitely alt-right types, but when the article doesn't present any facts to contradict them it doesn't make it seem like they're actually wrong. For some "conspiracy theories" it can be impossible to prove someone wrong, but there should be some pretty straightforward statistics to help figure out if this is bogus or not. FWIW it seems to be a commonly held belief by South Africans. The ones I know told me that in SA they won't stop at a red stoplight ("robot") in certain areas. The risk of getting carjacked and murdered is higher (or perceived to be higher) than the risk of getting in a deadly car crash when running a red light.

deogeo 7y ago
> but there should be some pretty straightforward statistics to help figure out if this is bogus or not. Sometimes they're not: https://www.thelocal.se/20180508/why-sweden-doesnt-keep-stats-on-ethnic-background-and-crime https://www.thelocal.se/20180508/why-sweden-doesnt-keep-stat...
- spraak 7y ago
  Thanks for that, quite an interesting read.

adbge 7y ago

Even supposing that it's not happening in South Africa (ANC leaders are just singing about doing it [1]), land appropriation very much happened in neighboring Zimbabwe: "By 2013, every white-owned farm in Zimbabwe had been either expropriated or confirmed for future redistribution." [2] To bring us back to OP's question, property rights in Ghana are listed here [3] as "weak". [1]: https://www.reuters.com/article/ozatp-safrica-racism-20100330-idAFJOE62T0IM20100330 https://www.reuters.com/article/ozatp-safrica-racism-2010033... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_reform_in_Zimbabwe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_reform_in_Zimbabwe [3]: https://www.propertymarketsscorecard.com/countries/ghana/property-rights/ https://www.propertymarketsscorecard.com/countries/ghana/pro...