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>> "I have not heard anyone say they want to visit the United States in a very long time." US had the 3rd largest number of tourists in the world in 2017 (afte

>> "I have not heard anyone say they want to visit the United States in a very long time." US had the 3rd largest number of tourists in the world in 2017 (after France and Spain). [1] Though YOY is trending down in Trump years. [1] https://www.e-unwto.org/doi/pdf/10.18111/9789284419876 https://www.e-unwto.org/doi/pdf/10.18111/9789284419876

diveanon 7y ago
I did not see a breakdown by age demographic in that report. The overwhelming majority of the tourists I encounter fall into the Millennial bracket, and I don't think it is possible for them to be less enthusiastic about visiting the US. Maybe that will change once they have kids who want to go see Harry Potter World in Orlando, but as it stands I think most of my customers would rather visit North Korea than the US.
- JumpCrisscross 7y ago
  > The overwhelming majority of the tourists I encounter fall into the Millennial bracket, and I don't think it is possible for them to be less enthusiastic about visiting the US I’m a millennial with lots of international millennial friends. Nobody likes these measures. But getting into most countries is no walk in the park. As much as I hate to admit this, the pressure to end these policies will never come from tourists.
  - diveanon 7y ago
    Depends on where you are coming from. Most of the Europeans that come through have the financial means and strong enough passports to go pretty much anywhere they please. Same goes for most Japanese and Chinese. My Arab customers however have the money, but getting a visa is a near impossibility.
    - pnw_hazor 7y ago
      EU travelers should understand - because the EU screens social media as part of visa applications too.
      - diveanon 7y ago
        I don't think it is any one issue for them, rather more like "all of the above".
      - yani 7y ago
        To the best of my knowledge there is no such thing.
      - igravious 7y ago
        False: https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/ https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/
    - avocado4 7y ago
      >> "have the financial means and strong enough passports to go pretty much anywhere they please. Same goes for most Japanese and Chinese" Chinese passport is one of the worst in the world as far as travel goes. [1][2] [1] https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Chinese_citizens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Chinese_...
      - diveanon 7y ago
        That doesn't seem to prevent millions of them from traveling every year.
        Ayesh 7y ago
        It's a country with over a billion people, so it's possible.
        DKnoll 7y ago
        If you have money and a clean background you can go anywhere you want (with some exceptions), regardless of your passport. There are companies you can contact who will handle the entire visa process for you.
        diveanon 7y ago
        This is unfortunately not true for most people coming from the Arab world.
- ashelmire 7y ago
  > The overwhelming majority of the tourists I encounter fall into the Millennial bracket, and I don't think it is possible for them to be less enthusiastic about visiting the US. You could say the same about American millenials. We aren't thrilled to be here either - if we all had dual citizenship with another first-world nation, I'd bet 70% of us would have left the country. I doubt we've ever had an economy that was as strong (or at least, looked so good on paper), while people had such a negative opinion of what the future holds. Trump and the Senate Republicans (and their supporters) are destroying this nation.
  - diveanon 7y ago
    You don't need dual citizenship to leave, it didn't stop me. America has been on a bad path for decades, I left long before Trump was even in the picture.
mrsalt 7y ago
I would think many of those visits are for business or seeing family. Plus the fact that many of the tourists come from countries in the Visa Waiver Program [1]. An ESTA is much less involved than a B1/B2 visa application. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_the_United_States#Visitor_statistics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_the_United_States#V...
FabHK 7y ago
The YOY growth rates of the top 10 destinations are between max +24.1% (Turkey) and min 0.7% (USA).

diveanon 7y ago

I did not see a breakdown by age demographic in that report. The overwhelming majority of the tourists I encounter fall into the Millennial bracket, and I don't think it is possible for them to be less enthusiastic about visiting the US. Maybe that will change once they have kids who want to go see Harry Potter World in Orlando, but as it stands I think most of my customers would rather visit North Korea than the US.

JumpCrisscross 7y ago
> The overwhelming majority of the tourists I encounter fall into the Millennial bracket, and I don't think it is possible for them to be less enthusiastic about visiting the US I’m a millennial with lots of international millennial friends. Nobody likes these measures. But getting into most countries is no walk in the park. As much as I hate to admit this, the pressure to end these policies will never come from tourists.
- diveanon 7y ago
  Depends on where you are coming from. Most of the Europeans that come through have the financial means and strong enough passports to go pretty much anywhere they please. Same goes for most Japanese and Chinese. My Arab customers however have the money, but getting a visa is a near impossibility.
  - pnw_hazor 7y ago
    EU travelers should understand - because the EU screens social media as part of visa applications too.
    - diveanon 7y ago
      I don't think it is any one issue for them, rather more like "all of the above".
    - yani 7y ago
      To the best of my knowledge there is no such thing.
    - igravious 7y ago
      False: https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/ https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/
  - avocado4 7y ago
    >> "have the financial means and strong enough passports to go pretty much anywhere they please. Same goes for most Japanese and Chinese" Chinese passport is one of the worst in the world as far as travel goes. [1][2] [1] https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Chinese_citizens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Chinese_...
    - diveanon 7y ago
      That doesn't seem to prevent millions of them from traveling every year.
      - Ayesh 7y ago
        It's a country with over a billion people, so it's possible.
      - DKnoll 7y ago
        If you have money and a clean background you can go anywhere you want (with some exceptions), regardless of your passport. There are companies you can contact who will handle the entire visa process for you.
        diveanon 7y ago
        This is unfortunately not true for most people coming from the Arab world.
ashelmire 7y ago
> The overwhelming majority of the tourists I encounter fall into the Millennial bracket, and I don't think it is possible for them to be less enthusiastic about visiting the US. You could say the same about American millenials. We aren't thrilled to be here either - if we all had dual citizenship with another first-world nation, I'd bet 70% of us would have left the country. I doubt we've ever had an economy that was as strong (or at least, looked so good on paper), while people had such a negative opinion of what the future holds. Trump and the Senate Republicans (and their supporters) are destroying this nation.
- diveanon 7y ago
  You don't need dual citizenship to leave, it didn't stop me. America has been on a bad path for decades, I left long before Trump was even in the picture.

mrsalt 7y ago

I would think many of those visits are for business or seeing family. Plus the fact that many of the tourists come from countries in the Visa Waiver Program [1]. An ESTA is much less involved than a B1/B2 visa application. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_the_United_States#Visitor_statistics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_the_United_States#V...

FabHK 7y ago

The YOY growth rates of the top 10 destinations are between max +24.1% (Turkey) and min 0.7% (USA).