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Finally. Let's start building again things designed for humans ?

by thatfrenchguy 7y ago

clintonb 7y ago
Cars are designed for humans.
- ctidd 7y ago
  Cars are designed for humans, then infrastructure is designed for cars. That step of removal from being designed for humans conflicts with any idea that designing for cars is design for humans by proxy: disproportionately catering to automotive concerns has negative affects on humans relying on their infrastructure to facilitate other forms of transport, or otherwise to not excessively distort either the urban or natural environment they are members of.
- gullywhumper 7y ago
  Only if you’re in one - otherwise that oversized pickup is designed to just plow on through puny humans in their path -crosswalks and bike lanes are no match!
- NeedMoreTea 7y ago
  Trouble is everything around them is designed for cars. Shopping and other amenities get spaced out too far, residential areas are bisected and cut off by unfriendly, loud and smelly tarmac rivers. Acres of space are given to resting, care and feeding of cars. They get special places to gather: the out of town shopping centre. They get priority over other forms of transport in most places. The humans come next. We should design residential areas, cities, shopping and communities for people first once again. Then we wouldn't need to think about a car as often.
noobermin 7y ago
If you look at autofatalities (including of pedestrians and cyclists), share of public transit and bike usage, and other such related statistics over time, they closely track the cost of gas. Ironically, of course, production of new cars doesn't neccessarily mean less car usage over the <10 year term (since cars don't magically burn up), but it may mean good news for those who want to wean their cities off of cars.
- shdh 7y ago
  > ...they closely track the cost of gas. Could you post a source backing your claim?

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Finally. Let's start building again things designed for humans ?

by thatfrenchguy 7y ago

Finally. Let's start building again things designed for humans ?

clintonb 7y ago
Cars are designed for humans.
- ctidd 7y ago
  Cars are designed for humans, then infrastructure is designed for cars. That step of removal from being designed for humans conflicts with any idea that designing for cars is design for humans by proxy: disproportionately catering to automotive concerns has negative affects on humans relying on their infrastructure to facilitate other forms of transport, or otherwise to not excessively distort either the urban or natural environment they are members of.
- gullywhumper 7y ago
  Only if you’re in one - otherwise that oversized pickup is designed to just plow on through puny humans in their path -crosswalks and bike lanes are no match!
- NeedMoreTea 7y ago
  Trouble is everything around them is designed for cars. Shopping and other amenities get spaced out too far, residential areas are bisected and cut off by unfriendly, loud and smelly tarmac rivers. Acres of space are given to resting, care and feeding of cars. They get special places to gather: the out of town shopping centre. They get priority over other forms of transport in most places. The humans come next. We should design residential areas, cities, shopping and communities for people first once again. Then we wouldn't need to think about a car as often.
noobermin 7y ago
If you look at autofatalities (including of pedestrians and cyclists), share of public transit and bike usage, and other such related statistics over time, they closely track the cost of gas. Ironically, of course, production of new cars doesn't neccessarily mean less car usage over the <10 year term (since cars don't magically burn up), but it may mean good news for those who want to wean their cities off of cars.
- shdh 7y ago
  > ...they closely track the cost of gas. Could you post a source backing your claim?