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Can't use my Nest lock to let guests into my house. I'm pretty sure their infrastructure is hosted in Google Cloud. So yeah... definitely some stuff lost.

jakeogh 7y ago
To bad we don't have google cars yet.
- sdan 7y ago
  Phoenix Arizona residents think otherwise
- jsty 7y ago
  "Cloud Automotive Collision Avoidance and Cloud Automotive Braking services are currently unavailable. Cloud Automotive Acceleration is currently accepting unauthenticated PUT requests. We apologise for any inconvenience caused."
- ganeshkrishnan 7y ago
  Our algorithms have detected unusual patterns and we have terminated your account as per clause 404 in Terms And Conditions. The vehicle will now stop and you are requested to exit.
TeMPOraL 7y ago
You have my honest sympathy because of the difficulties you now suffer through, but it bears emphasizing: this is what you get when you replace what should be a physical product under your control with Internet-connected service running on third-party servers. IoT as seen on the consumer market is a Bad Idea.
- gowld 7y ago
  It's a trade-off of risks. Leaving a key under the may could lead to a security breach.
  - debaserab2 7y ago
    At least you can isolate your security risk to something you have more control over than a random network outage.
  - TeMPOraL 7y ago
    So can a compromise of a "smart" lock. It's a fake trade-off, because you're choosing between lo-tech solution and bad engineering. IoT would work better if you made the "I" part stand for "Intranet", and kept the whole thing a product instead of a service. Alas, this wouldn't support user exploitation.
    - Pxtl 7y ago
      Yeah, my dream device would be some standard app architecture that could run on consumer routers. You buy the router and it's your family file and print server, and also is the public portal to manage your IoT devices like cameras, locks, thermostats, and lights.
      - redler 7y ago
        You can get a fair amount of this with a Synology box. Granted, a tool for the reasonably technically savvy and probably not grandma.
        ericd 7y ago
        I love my Synology, I wish they would expand more into being the controller of the various home IOT devices.
        MarkyC4 7y ago
        I don't use the features, but I know my Qnap keeps touting IoT so they might be worth checking out as well. It's also my Plex media server, file server, VPN, I run some containers on there. I used to use it as a print server but my new printer is wireless so I never bothered
- rakden 7y ago
  Any key commands they have already set up will still work. Nest is pretty good at having network failures fail to a working state. They might not be able to actively open the lock over the network is the only change.
- alphabettsy 7y ago
  One of the reasons why I personally wanted a smart-lock that had BLE support along with a keypad for backup in addition to HomeKit connectivity.
znpy 7y ago
You should have foreseen this when you bought stuff that rely on "the cloud"
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SmokeGS 7y ago
holy shit lmao. I'm sorry that sucks.
disillusioned 7y ago
Sure you can, but you'll need to give them your code or the master code. Unless you've enabled Privacy Mode, in which case... I don't know if even the master code would work.
viburnum 7y ago
I wonder if in the future products will advertise that they work independently (decoupling as a feature).
MrAureliusR 7y ago
Everyone talking about security and not replacing locks with smart locks seems to forget that you can just kick the fucking door down or jimmy a window open.
- milesward 7y ago
  Or just sawzall a hole in the side of the house...
  - justinclift 7y ago
    After you've cut the power, just to be safe? ;)
- jedikv 7y ago
  Except kicking the door down is not particularly scalable or clandestine
DonHopkins 7y ago
They weren't wearing Batman t-shirts were they? http://www.ktvu.com/news/mistaken-identity-nest-locks-out-homeowner-mistakes-him-for-batman http://www.ktvu.com/news/mistaken-identity-nest-locks-out-ho...

jakeogh 7y ago

To bad we don't have google cars yet.

sdan 7y ago
Phoenix Arizona residents think otherwise
jsty 7y ago
"Cloud Automotive Collision Avoidance and Cloud Automotive Braking services are currently unavailable. Cloud Automotive Acceleration is currently accepting unauthenticated PUT requests. We apologise for any inconvenience caused."
ganeshkrishnan 7y ago
Our algorithms have detected unusual patterns and we have terminated your account as per clause 404 in Terms And Conditions. The vehicle will now stop and you are requested to exit.

TeMPOraL 7y ago

You have my honest sympathy because of the difficulties you now suffer through, but it bears emphasizing: this is what you get when you replace what should be a physical product under your control with Internet-connected service running on third-party servers. IoT as seen on the consumer market is a Bad Idea.

gowld 7y ago
It's a trade-off of risks. Leaving a key under the may could lead to a security breach.
- debaserab2 7y ago
  At least you can isolate your security risk to something you have more control over than a random network outage.
- TeMPOraL 7y ago
  So can a compromise of a "smart" lock. It's a fake trade-off, because you're choosing between lo-tech solution and bad engineering. IoT would work better if you made the "I" part stand for "Intranet", and kept the whole thing a product instead of a service. Alas, this wouldn't support user exploitation.
  - Pxtl 7y ago
    Yeah, my dream device would be some standard app architecture that could run on consumer routers. You buy the router and it's your family file and print server, and also is the public portal to manage your IoT devices like cameras, locks, thermostats, and lights.
    - redler 7y ago
      You can get a fair amount of this with a Synology box. Granted, a tool for the reasonably technically savvy and probably not grandma.
      - ericd 7y ago
        I love my Synology, I wish they would expand more into being the controller of the various home IOT devices.
        MarkyC4 7y ago
        I don't use the features, but I know my Qnap keeps touting IoT so they might be worth checking out as well. It's also my Plex media server, file server, VPN, I run some containers on there. I used to use it as a print server but my new printer is wireless so I never bothered
rakden 7y ago
Any key commands they have already set up will still work. Nest is pretty good at having network failures fail to a working state. They might not be able to actively open the lock over the network is the only change.
alphabettsy 7y ago
One of the reasons why I personally wanted a smart-lock that had BLE support along with a keypad for backup in addition to HomeKit connectivity.

znpy 7y ago

You should have foreseen this when you bought stuff that rely on "the cloud"

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SmokeGS 7y ago

holy shit lmao. I'm sorry that sucks.

disillusioned 7y ago

Sure you can, but you'll need to give them your code or the master code. Unless you've enabled Privacy Mode, in which case... I don't know if even the master code would work.

viburnum 7y ago

I wonder if in the future products will advertise that they work independently (decoupling as a feature).

MrAureliusR 7y ago

Everyone talking about security and not replacing locks with smart locks seems to forget that you can just kick the fucking door down or jimmy a window open.

milesward 7y ago
Or just sawzall a hole in the side of the house...
- justinclift 7y ago
  After you've cut the power, just to be safe? ;)
jedikv 7y ago
Except kicking the door down is not particularly scalable or clandestine

DonHopkins 7y ago

They weren't wearing Batman t-shirts were they? http://www.ktvu.com/news/mistaken-identity-nest-locks-out-homeowner-mistakes-him-for-batman http://www.ktvu.com/news/mistaken-identity-nest-locks-out-ho...