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I would sort of disagree that EV Bite is just a spammy blog site. I get a lot of great EV news from them among others like CleanTechnica, Electrek, etc. By the

I would sort of disagree that EV Bite is just a spammy blog site. I get a lot of great EV news from them among others like CleanTechnica, Electrek, etc. By the way, I know you have discretion as a moderator to change things dang, but I would hope that you try to place at least some good faith in posters. All the submissions I make are from my personal RSS newsfeed, which I've tried to prune throughout the years to build what I believe is an extremely comprehensive information portal, if perhaps somewhat biased towards the technology industry and technical engineering.

gpm 7y ago
Blogspam doesn't mean spammy blogsite, it means copying the content of a source article without adding anything. There are good reasons to do that, e.g. to be a one stop destination for news on a topic, but from aggregators like this it's preferable to link to the original source because errors are less likely to have been introduced by broken telephone, and to give credit where credit is due.
- lawrenceyan 7y ago
  Fair enough, I can see how even with a citation, aggregators might dilute the credit received to the original poster because most people prefer the more convenient option of just staying with the aggregator. Though I would still argue that by definition, sites like Hacker News are also aggregators in the same way, so I think it's slightly disingenuous to pick on one and not the other.
  - dandandan 7y ago
    I think that there’s a bug difference between a site that’s clearly an aggregator (HN) and something with original content and thin wrappers around another site’s content.
    - lawrenceyan 7y ago
      I do have some thoughts in regards to your statement, but this discussion is probably better made on a different thread somewhere else.
  - rhizome 7y ago
    >sites like Hacker News are also aggregators in the same way, so I think it's slightly disingenuous to pick on one and not the other. IME, HN posts aren't ever a source of the content linked, only as a source of comments. Plus, HN doesn't run ads on its posts. Lastly, evbite the-site-itself appears currently not to be...up.
  - gpm 7y ago
    Linking to hn thread instead of the original article wouldn't quite be blogspam (hn doesn't copy the content) but it would be bad form for the same reasons (assuming you weren't linking to the hn thread for added content, such as linking to someone's great comment). Blogspam isn't a judgement that says you shouldn't read the article if you're on the blog (or read hn), it's a judgement that you shouldn't link to it on a news aggregator, or generally use it as a source.
dang 7y ago
We have lots of good faith in posters, including you! It's just standard moderation that when one submission is based primarily on content from another, we change the URL to the latter. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

gpm 7y ago

Blogspam doesn't mean spammy blogsite, it means copying the content of a source article without adding anything. There are good reasons to do that, e.g. to be a one stop destination for news on a topic, but from aggregators like this it's preferable to link to the original source because errors are less likely to have been introduced by broken telephone, and to give credit where credit is due.

lawrenceyan 7y ago
Fair enough, I can see how even with a citation, aggregators might dilute the credit received to the original poster because most people prefer the more convenient option of just staying with the aggregator. Though I would still argue that by definition, sites like Hacker News are also aggregators in the same way, so I think it's slightly disingenuous to pick on one and not the other.
- dandandan 7y ago
  I think that there’s a bug difference between a site that’s clearly an aggregator (HN) and something with original content and thin wrappers around another site’s content.
  - lawrenceyan 7y ago
    I do have some thoughts in regards to your statement, but this discussion is probably better made on a different thread somewhere else.
- rhizome 7y ago
  >sites like Hacker News are also aggregators in the same way, so I think it's slightly disingenuous to pick on one and not the other. IME, HN posts aren't ever a source of the content linked, only as a source of comments. Plus, HN doesn't run ads on its posts. Lastly, evbite the-site-itself appears currently not to be...up.
- gpm 7y ago
  Linking to hn thread instead of the original article wouldn't quite be blogspam (hn doesn't copy the content) but it would be bad form for the same reasons (assuming you weren't linking to the hn thread for added content, such as linking to someone's great comment). Blogspam isn't a judgement that says you shouldn't read the article if you're on the blog (or read hn), it's a judgement that you shouldn't link to it on a news aggregator, or generally use it as a source.

dang 7y ago

We have lots of good faith in posters, including you! It's just standard moderation that when one submission is based primarily on content from another, we change the URL to the latter. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html