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Remind me again how Huawei smartphones in Europe are a threat to US national security
by ETHisso2017 7y ago
Remind me again how Huawei smartphones in Europe are a threat to US national security
- turtlegrids 7y ago20% of Five Eyes is in Europe. That's one good reason.
- robert_foss 7y agoI guess that is one upside of Brexit.
- freeflight 7y ago20% of Five Eyes, but the UK only represents 1 out of 28 countries in the EU which is 3.57%, yet they should dictate what everybody else does? edit: Why the downvotes? As an EU citizen, I'm directly affected by this, and I very much do not like the idea of the EU towing the Five Eyes line to further fascilitate US foreign policy interests. We very much would like to make our own decisions in our own interests and not have all our policies decided and forced upon us by the biggest brother on the planet.
- monocasa 7y agoThe EU is built around veto powers and allowing a single country to dictate things that are very important to them.
- freeflight 7y agoThat's a tad bit simplified, in reality, single countries can be overruled, it just doesn't happen that often [0], but it still happens. In that context, I doubt the EU is gonna let itself get dictated what to do by the UK, which is in the process of leaving said EU. It would be like eating your cake and still having it. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/bvj3o7/eu_legislation_how_often_your_country_was/ https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/bvj3o7/eu_legislati...
- ci5er 7y agoEven if Huawei handsets in Europe are not a threat to national security, most consumers would expect them to be able to run Android, which Google can no longer sell them...
- Waterluvian 7y agoIt's a great opportunity for the rest of the world to stop leaning on American companies and American technology. It would be wonderful for a European and/or an Asian alternative to Android to emerge.
- dillonmckay 7y agoAre you giving VC funding for this?
- Waterluvian 7y agoYes.
- i_am_proteus 7y agoSailfish OS claims to be mature and available for "corporate customers." I haven't seen any evidence past their own website, though.
- mpol 7y agoThe Russian government is using Sailfish in a big way. I heard the Russian post-office as well. There were negotiations with the Chinese government, but I assume that might have fallen through. Jolla is not much B2C anymore, mostly B2B now.
- whymeiask 7y ago.
- vuln 7y agoI’m definitely interested in more information on this topic. Could you assist with a source or point me in the right direction? Thanks!
- samcday 7y agoI'm not sure it's really worth engaging a throwaway account that is throwing around unsubstantiated "facts". You're just feeding the trolls ;)
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- whymeiask 7y ago.
- ceejayoz 7y agoThis is the same organization that editorialized that the very British Stephen Hawking would've died in the British NHS, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investor%27s_Business_Daily#Errors_and_retractions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investor%27s_Business_Daily#Er... Take op-eds with grain of salt. Take op-eds from an editorial board with a record of complete idiocy with more than a few grains.
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- odiroot 7y agoHuawei may be one of the most popular smartphone brands in Poland (if not the most popular actually). I guess the "Chinese dream" is over.
- jorblumesea 7y agoFive Eyes network, plus more informal relations with various European intelligence agencies. Not surprising or hard to see that the US wants to keep a strategic rival out.
- hubnditw 7y agoHuawei is closely associated with the Chinese government. The Chinese government threatens democracies and good people everywhere with its concentration camps. Did Europe forget its concentration camps?
- DocTomoe 7y ago> Huawei is closely associated with the Chinese government. ... and Google, Cisco, ... are closely associated with the American government ... > The Chinese government threatens democracies and good people everywhere with its concentration camps. As an European: Well, so does the United States. Turns out that being assholes to each others seems to be a human trait.
- maratd 7y agoThe US has concentration camps? Do tell.
- knob 7y agoDid you know about these? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Ameri...
- dodobirdlord 7y ago> has: present tense third-person singular of HAVE Not only does this appear to be whataboutism, it doesn't even make sense. By modern standards the past activities of pretty much any nation are unacceptable.
- RobLach 7y agoVery recently actually: https://www.npr.org/2018/06/19/621065383/what-we-know-family-separation-and-zero-tolerance-at-the-border https://www.npr.org/2018/06/19/621065383/what-we-know-family...
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- darkmarmot 7y agoWe apparently have a much harder time hacking them :(
- hahan_may 7y agoAs you implies, national security is not much of a thing. but it's pure naivety and shortsightedness that european countries take a pro-huawei stance in this trade dispute/war. Sure european people can get cheap smartphones from whuawei(because of Chinese government subsidies), but they would be pushed out of business in virtually every sector of the industry by whuawei someday. Anyone has been dealing with whuawei in business knows this. Actually this process has been ongoing.