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If this is normal, then you imply that the article linked by inflatableDodo is wrong? Btw, I was kind of impressed, when visiting India and speaking to a few l

If this is normal, then you imply that the article linked by inflatableDodo is wrong? Btw, I was kind of impressed, when visiting India and speaking to a few locals, that they don't see climate change to be a real thing, or at least to be such a big problem, and much overrated. The claim was basically that it was always very warm, and it is just normal that way, and they don't expect it to become much warmer. I'm not sure if that is just anecdotal or if that is the major opinion by locals.

inflatableDodo 7y ago
The article I posted does appear to be wrong. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/jaipur/Rajasthans-Phalodi-sizzles-at-51C-highest-ever-temperature-in-country/articleshow/52349772.cms https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/jaipur/Rajasthans-P... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-36339523 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-36339523 That said, it does not mean that it is normal either. There appears to be a cluster of temps over 50 recently, but before that you seemingly have to go back to 1956 to get over 50 degrees. I could be wrong again however. If someone has better data, I'd like it if they could link to it.
shripadk 7y ago
It is just anecdotal as opinions in India change every few kilometres. However, the Indian Government has made its stance clear on Climate Change: https://www.undp.org/content/dam/india/docs/undp_climate_change.pdf https://www.undp.org/content/dam/india/docs/undp_climate_cha... and: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/view-will-modi-spur-global-inaction-into-action-on-climate-change/articleshow/69609716.cms https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-natio... > The claim was basically that it was always very warm, and it is just normal that way, and they don't expect it to become much warmer I think they might have misunderstood you. They might have thought you are talking about weather and not climate change. Human body may not notice slight changes in temperature but the ecosystem does. For instance, those locals you spoke to may not have personally experienced any change but if you had instead asked them about droughts, drying of wells or yield of crops they would have definitely given you a totally different reply.
- vram22 7y ago
  >It is just anecdotal as opinions in India change every few kilometres. And every ten meters, when asking for directions, ha ha :) And the best part is that some of them, if asked "where is so-and-so place" (hotel / restaurant / bus station / etc.), will dramatically raise their arm, point "that-a-way", and say "tum XYZ chowk ko cross karke seeeedddddhaaaayyy jao" (you cross XYZ square and go sttttrrrraaaiiiiggggghhhhhhhtttt) - without mentioning in which direction to straight from the square ... Always good for a few giggles (apart from the frustration). Indian here.
vram22 7y ago
Why impressed by that, though?
- albertzeyer 7y ago
  Hm, maybe the wrong word in this context. It left a big impression on me, but not in a positive way.
jogjayr 7y ago
> Btw, I was kind of impressed, when visiting India and speaking to a few locals, that they don't see climate change to be a real thing, or at least to be such a big problem, and much overrated. The claim was basically that it was always very warm, and it is just normal that way, and they don't expect it to become much warmer. That's very much not my experience. And regardless of beliefs, actual government policy and individual action are largely emissions-reducing. See a comment I posted some time ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18164816 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18164816

inflatableDodo 7y ago

The article I posted does appear to be wrong. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/jaipur/Rajasthans-Phalodi-sizzles-at-51C-highest-ever-temperature-in-country/articleshow/52349772.cms https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/jaipur/Rajasthans-P... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-36339523 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-36339523 That said, it does not mean that it is normal either. There appears to be a cluster of temps over 50 recently, but before that you seemingly have to go back to 1956 to get over 50 degrees. I could be wrong again however. If someone has better data, I'd like it if they could link to it.

shripadk 7y ago

It is just anecdotal as opinions in India change every few kilometres. However, the Indian Government has made its stance clear on Climate Change: https://www.undp.org/content/dam/india/docs/undp_climate_change.pdf https://www.undp.org/content/dam/india/docs/undp_climate_cha... and: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/view-will-modi-spur-global-inaction-into-action-on-climate-change/articleshow/69609716.cms https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-natio... > The claim was basically that it was always very warm, and it is just normal that way, and they don't expect it to become much warmer I think they might have misunderstood you. They might have thought you are talking about weather and not climate change. Human body may not notice slight changes in temperature but the ecosystem does. For instance, those locals you spoke to may not have personally experienced any change but if you had instead asked them about droughts, drying of wells or yield of crops they would have definitely given you a totally different reply.

vram22 7y ago
>It is just anecdotal as opinions in India change every few kilometres. And every ten meters, when asking for directions, ha ha :) And the best part is that some of them, if asked "where is so-and-so place" (hotel / restaurant / bus station / etc.), will dramatically raise their arm, point "that-a-way", and say "tum XYZ chowk ko cross karke seeeedddddhaaaayyy jao" (you cross XYZ square and go sttttrrrraaaiiiiggggghhhhhhhtttt) - without mentioning in which direction to straight from the square ... Always good for a few giggles (apart from the frustration). Indian here.

vram22 7y ago

Why impressed by that, though?

albertzeyer 7y ago
Hm, maybe the wrong word in this context. It left a big impression on me, but not in a positive way.

jogjayr 7y ago

> Btw, I was kind of impressed, when visiting India and speaking to a few locals, that they don't see climate change to be a real thing, or at least to be such a big problem, and much overrated. The claim was basically that it was always very warm, and it is just normal that way, and they don't expect it to become much warmer. That's very much not my experience. And regardless of beliefs, actual government policy and individual action are largely emissions-reducing. See a comment I posted some time ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18164816 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18164816