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by factorialboy 7y ago

Yes

factorialboy 7y ago
Go ahead and down vote. It remains a fact that Rajasthan crosses 50 degrees celsius every summer.
- ChrisGranger 7y ago
  The downvotes are likely a result of the single-word reply, with no supporting source for the claim, not for the claim itself.
  - drocer88 7y ago
    But the single word "no" reply got voted up.
    - Freak_NL 7y ago
      Or just didn't get voted upon at all.
- beckler 7y ago
  Technically summer doesn't start until June 21.
  - chrisseaton 7y ago
    Summer solstice? That's midsummer, not the start of summer.
    - wongarsu 7y ago
      At least in Europe the summer solstice is regarded as the beginning of summer. It takes months for the land and water bodies to warm up, so this definition makes the seasons line up with temperatures observed in Europe. Depending on geography it might make less sense elsewhere, just as not every place has four seasons.
      - chrisseaton 7y ago
        > At least in Europe the summer solstice is regarded as the beginning of summer. I think in Europe it's called midsummer - middle of summer. That's what Wikipedia says as well. > Traditionally, in many temperate regions (especially Europe), the summer solstice is seen as the middle of summer and referred to as "midsummer".
        wongarsu 7y ago
        At least in my experience the summer solstice is called midsummer, but is not (any more?) regarded as the middle of summer. According to [1] summer is commonly seen as beginning in June, with the exact date varying between the first, the 21st, the day of the summer solstice (20th/21st) or the end of May. [2] gives some insight into the mechanism causing this definition of the seasons. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer#Summer_timing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer#Summer_timing 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_lag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_lag
  - manojlds 7y ago
    Where? May-early June is peak summer in India. Schools actually start early to mid June.
    - hesarenu 7y ago
      We consider April May as peak summer down south. School starts on May end June beginning.
  - kerng 7y ago
    That's the western definition of summer. In some cultures (not sure about India), solstice is the middle of summer.
    - amortize 7y ago
      In India, by summer solstice, large parts of the country are already under the sway of Monsoon rains. And so technically, the peak of summer is past. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsoon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsoon
    - mkl 7y ago
      Not even Western in general. In New Zealand summer starts three weeks before the solstice, on December 1. Each season is three full calendar months.
    - sn41 7y ago
      It's not about culture alone, rather also about the weather patterns. In India, monsoon is the major climactic event around then. So it's not spring-summer-autumn-winter in India (in most part of the country), rather, it is summer-monsoon-winter
  - rishav_sharan 7y ago
    Where? In most of India summer starts after Holi. So late March
  - vixen99 7y ago
    You're being provincial.
- ajnin 7y ago
  The 50.8°C temperature is the highest-ever recorded temperature in Rajasthan. The previous time it went over 50°C was in May 2016. So no, it is not "normal" temperatures and it is not a fact that they go that high every year.
  - xenator 7y ago
    So, then it becomes "normal" for now.
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albertzeyer 7y ago
If this is normal, then you imply that the article linked by inflatableDodo is wrong? Btw, I was kind of impressed, when visiting India and speaking to a few locals, that they don't see climate change to be a real thing, or at least to be such a big problem, and much overrated. The claim was basically that it was always very warm, and it is just normal that way, and they don't expect it to become much warmer. I'm not sure if that is just anecdotal or if that is the major opinion by locals.
- inflatableDodo 7y ago
  The article I posted does appear to be wrong. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/jaipur/Rajasthans-Phalodi-sizzles-at-51C-highest-ever-temperature-in-country/articleshow/52349772.cms https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/jaipur/Rajasthans-P... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-36339523 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-36339523 That said, it does not mean that it is normal either. There appears to be a cluster of temps over 50 recently, but before that you seemingly have to go back to 1956 to get over 50 degrees. I could be wrong again however. If someone has better data, I'd like it if they could link to it.
- shripadk 7y ago
  It is just anecdotal as opinions in India change every few kilometres. However, the Indian Government has made its stance clear on Climate Change: https://www.undp.org/content/dam/india/docs/undp_climate_change.pdf https://www.undp.org/content/dam/india/docs/undp_climate_cha... and: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/view-will-modi-spur-global-inaction-into-action-on-climate-change/articleshow/69609716.cms https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-natio... > The claim was basically that it was always very warm, and it is just normal that way, and they don't expect it to become much warmer I think they might have misunderstood you. They might have thought you are talking about weather and not climate change. Human body may not notice slight changes in temperature but the ecosystem does. For instance, those locals you spoke to may not have personally experienced any change but if you had instead asked them about droughts, drying of wells or yield of crops they would have definitely given you a totally different reply.

Yes

factorialboy 7y ago

Go ahead and down vote. It remains a fact that Rajasthan crosses 50 degrees celsius every summer.

ChrisGranger 7y ago
The downvotes are likely a result of the single-word reply, with no supporting source for the claim, not for the claim itself.
- drocer88 7y ago
  But the single word "no" reply got voted up.
  - Freak_NL 7y ago
    Or just didn't get voted upon at all.
beckler 7y ago
Technically summer doesn't start until June 21.
- chrisseaton 7y ago
  Summer solstice? That's midsummer, not the start of summer.
  - wongarsu 7y ago
    At least in Europe the summer solstice is regarded as the beginning of summer. It takes months for the land and water bodies to warm up, so this definition makes the seasons line up with temperatures observed in Europe. Depending on geography it might make less sense elsewhere, just as not every place has four seasons.
    - chrisseaton 7y ago
      > At least in Europe the summer solstice is regarded as the beginning of summer. I think in Europe it's called midsummer - middle of summer. That's what Wikipedia says as well. > Traditionally, in many temperate regions (especially Europe), the summer solstice is seen as the middle of summer and referred to as "midsummer".
      - wongarsu 7y ago
        At least in my experience the summer solstice is called midsummer, but is not (any more?) regarded as the middle of summer. According to [1] summer is commonly seen as beginning in June, with the exact date varying between the first, the 21st, the day of the summer solstice (20th/21st) or the end of May. [2] gives some insight into the mechanism causing this definition of the seasons. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer#Summer_timing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer#Summer_timing 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_lag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_lag
- manojlds 7y ago
  Where? May-early June is peak summer in India. Schools actually start early to mid June.
  - hesarenu 7y ago
    We consider April May as peak summer down south. School starts on May end June beginning.
- kerng 7y ago
  That's the western definition of summer. In some cultures (not sure about India), solstice is the middle of summer.
  - amortize 7y ago
    In India, by summer solstice, large parts of the country are already under the sway of Monsoon rains. And so technically, the peak of summer is past. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsoon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsoon
  - mkl 7y ago
    Not even Western in general. In New Zealand summer starts three weeks before the solstice, on December 1. Each season is three full calendar months.
  - sn41 7y ago
    It's not about culture alone, rather also about the weather patterns. In India, monsoon is the major climactic event around then. So it's not spring-summer-autumn-winter in India (in most part of the country), rather, it is summer-monsoon-winter
- rishav_sharan 7y ago
  Where? In most of India summer starts after Holi. So late March
- vixen99 7y ago
  You're being provincial.
ajnin 7y ago
The 50.8°C temperature is the highest-ever recorded temperature in Rajasthan. The previous time it went over 50°C was in May 2016. So no, it is not "normal" temperatures and it is not a fact that they go that high every year.
- xenator 7y ago
  So, then it becomes "normal" for now.

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albertzeyer 7y ago

If this is normal, then you imply that the article linked by inflatableDodo is wrong? Btw, I was kind of impressed, when visiting India and speaking to a few locals, that they don't see climate change to be a real thing, or at least to be such a big problem, and much overrated. The claim was basically that it was always very warm, and it is just normal that way, and they don't expect it to become much warmer. I'm not sure if that is just anecdotal or if that is the major opinion by locals.

inflatableDodo 7y ago
The article I posted does appear to be wrong. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/jaipur/Rajasthans-Phalodi-sizzles-at-51C-highest-ever-temperature-in-country/articleshow/52349772.cms https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/jaipur/Rajasthans-P... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-36339523 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-36339523 That said, it does not mean that it is normal either. There appears to be a cluster of temps over 50 recently, but before that you seemingly have to go back to 1956 to get over 50 degrees. I could be wrong again however. If someone has better data, I'd like it if they could link to it.
shripadk 7y ago
It is just anecdotal as opinions in India change every few kilometres. However, the Indian Government has made its stance clear on Climate Change: https://www.undp.org/content/dam/india/docs/undp_climate_change.pdf https://www.undp.org/content/dam/india/docs/undp_climate_cha... and: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/view-will-modi-spur-global-inaction-into-action-on-climate-change/articleshow/69609716.cms https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-natio... > The claim was basically that it was always very warm, and it is just normal that way, and they don't expect it to become much warmer I think they might have misunderstood you. They might have thought you are talking about weather and not climate change. Human body may not notice slight changes in temperature but the ecosystem does. For instance, those locals you spoke to may not have personally experienced any change but if you had instead asked them about droughts, drying of wells or yield of crops they would have definitely given you a totally different reply.