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I regret XUL was abandoned - it was a great idea, but much ahead of its time.

teknopaul 7y ago
Plus one. This was the beggining of the rot in Mozila. This marked the moment the went from making general purpose web/http based platforms based on OpenSource principals to builing a single a www specific advertising platform. I still use Firefox and support them financially. Its the best we have. But they stopped caring about anything other that being the frontpage to the Internet a long time ago. They gave up on supporting developers.
mongol 7y ago
That was before Firefox was born, right? Or was the success of Firefox the demise of XUL?
- simias 7y ago
  I'm not sure what you're asking exactly but XUL existed a long time after Firefox was born and became popular. I remember using a XUL app at work around 2010.
- cptskippy 7y ago
  XUL was the markup language used by the Mozilla Communicator Suite for designing user interfaces. It was what Add-on development used. Mozilla deprecated it not that long ago in favor of HTML but stalwarts have clung to it and complained. I use to maintain a couple Add-ons and developed some simple UIs for it. I was never impressed by it and it was easy enough to use so I had no objections either.
eloisant 7y ago
XUL was just a markup language to create interfaces, it became obsolete as HTML got refined.
- furgooswft13 7y ago
  Even to this day, XUL is far more capable than HTML. It has built-in widgets for many common desktop GUI elements that still need to be created from scratch in HTML+Javascript, and notably uses the native chrome of whatever OS it is running on to render them.
XzetaU8 7y ago
Abandoned by Mozilla, not by Pale Moon/Basilisk though. http://thereisonlyxul.org/ http://thereisonlyxul.org/
tinus_hn 7y ago
XUL is a great idea but not for browser chrome. That’s an area where it is truly worth the effort to make it fast and light, secure and stable.
kabwj 7y ago
XULrunner was a great idea, so the executives of the Mozilla Corporation had to sack it.

Plus one. This was the beggining of the rot in Mozila. This marked the moment the went from making general purpose web/http based platforms based on OpenSource principals to builing a single a www specific advertising platform. I still use Firefox and support them financially. Its the best we have. But they stopped caring about anything other that being the frontpage to the Internet a long time ago. They gave up on supporting developers.

mongol 7y ago

That was before Firefox was born, right? Or was the success of Firefox the demise of XUL?

simias 7y ago
I'm not sure what you're asking exactly but XUL existed a long time after Firefox was born and became popular. I remember using a XUL app at work around 2010.
cptskippy 7y ago
XUL was the markup language used by the Mozilla Communicator Suite for designing user interfaces. It was what Add-on development used. Mozilla deprecated it not that long ago in favor of HTML but stalwarts have clung to it and complained. I use to maintain a couple Add-ons and developed some simple UIs for it. I was never impressed by it and it was easy enough to use so I had no objections either.

eloisant 7y ago

XUL was just a markup language to create interfaces, it became obsolete as HTML got refined.

furgooswft13 7y ago
Even to this day, XUL is far more capable than HTML. It has built-in widgets for many common desktop GUI elements that still need to be created from scratch in HTML+Javascript, and notably uses the native chrome of whatever OS it is running on to render them.

XzetaU8 7y ago

Abandoned by Mozilla, not by Pale Moon/Basilisk though. http://thereisonlyxul.org/ http://thereisonlyxul.org/

tinus_hn 7y ago

XUL is a great idea but not for browser chrome. That’s an area where it is truly worth the effort to make it fast and light, secure and stable.

kabwj 7y ago

XULrunner was a great idea, so the executives of the Mozilla Corporation had to sack it.