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Question mark hangs over trendy tech startup domains
- villgax 7y ago.ai is run manually by a hard working bloke in Anguila, ironic.
- brennebeck 7y agoThat sounds interesting. Do you have a link? I didn’t see anything relevant on google.
- ChrisGranger 7y agohttp://www.ai/ http://www.ai/
- brennebeck 7y agoThank you. Not sure how I didn’t see that.
- ChrisGranger 7y agoI'm not sure if it works in all browsers, but for me at least, even http://ai http://ai is enough to reach the site.
- zamadatix 7y agoI had to go to http://ai http://ai. in chrome (note the "." for the root is at the end), "ai." will autoexpand. Interesting.
- OJFord 7y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fqdn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fqdn
- Xcelerate 7y agoWow, that’s crazy. "ai" by itself is sort of the ultimate domain name.
- Freak_NL 7y agoI'm sure admin@ai has a hell of a time getting his email address past naive form validation regexes.
- mrhappyunhappy 7y agoI’ve run into issues with sites failing to validate .io addresses.
- Cthulhu_ 7y agoIt should, it is a valid domain name after all. something.ai is a subdomain of the .ai domain.
- emilfihlman 7y agoInteresting, this used to work for me but it seems now that Chrome has went out of its way to break it because it still works in Curl. But wtf, Firefox redirects it to uniregistry.com :o
- windexh8er 7y ago> But wtf, Firefox redirects it to uniregistry.com :o Same thing on mobile, but it's taking you to `ai.com` first, and then redirects to Unregistry as it looks to be for sale. And as another commenter has stated `http://ai.` http://ai.` works as expected in FF.
- emilfihlman 7y agoBut is is ai taking me to ai.com? Why is firefox making that choice?
- pavlov 7y agoAnguilla is one of those places of tragic beauty: the vast beaches and easily traversed shallow terrain also mean the soil on the island is nearly useless for agriculture. For centuries it was a destitute backwater. It seems like poetic justice that the information age has randomly handed a valuable asset there.
- JasonFruit 7y agoI am missing the irony here. Help?
- jkaplowitz 7y agoThe domain that often represents artificial intelligence is run very manually by one human.
- JasonFruit 7y agoApparently I have none, artificial or otherwise. Thanks!
- AlbertoGP 7y agoAh, that guy! I learnt about Vince Cate from this old Japanese documentary, “Crypto Wars” from 1997: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcC0RNsallc&t=48m00s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcC0RNsallc&t=48m00s (In Japanese, enable subtitles with the [cc] button.) “At the end of February, hoping to escape the chaos of America’s cryptography regulations, developers from corporations representing the cryptography business have gathered in Anguilla, in the Caribbean Sea. The Financial Cryptography Conference. This island, which does not levy taxes on corporations is willing to lend a hand to the Cypherpunks and those companies in the cryptography business. The Cypherpunks that have already arrived greet Sameer and his friends. They’ve all been asked to come by Cypherpunks member Vince Cate, a resident of the island. Three years ago Vince left America’s west coast to move here, a place without any internet service. At that time he had a plan in mind. Anguilla is a small island with a population of only 9000. A tourism industry which depends on resort customers from America and the sale of commemorative stamps are Anguilla’s primary sources of income. However revenue from tourism is sluggish compared to other islands in the area. After arriving here the first thing Vince did was to preach to the Anguillan government about how wonderful the internet was. And in the end, even though the island was poor it was wired for the Internet.”
- jnwkw 7y agoReturn the islands? To whom? They are populated by "95.88% British / American" it seems.
- objectivetruth 7y agoThe article provides a clear and detailed explanation of how the traditional inhabitants, who had settled there over a century ago, were forcibly re-settled by the British. The court decision in question calls for them to be returned to the descendants of those people. I presume you got the quoted statistic from the Chagos Islands info box on that Wikipedia page. If so, I'd urge you to scroll down just a little bit farther to learn the info that the rest of us read in the article. Here's a link to help: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chagos_Archipelago#Sovereignty_dispute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chagos_Archipelago#Sovereignty...
- mrob 7y agoIf they get their island back, why don't the Native Americans get their whole countries back too?
- blibble 7y agoit was also never their island, they lived there as employees only. their ancestors were brought to the uninhabited island by the French it would be like claiming an oil rig or country estate as your family's property because you've had several generations of drillers/domestic staff employed by the owners
- bhouston 7y agoThe .io domain name is both expensive and somewhat unreliable. For example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15293578 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15293578 We have used it for many years at https://clara.io https://clara.io, but we are moving away from it back to .com for all new services.
- senorjazz 7y ago10, probably more like 15 years ago, someone told me "if the .com is available, get the .com - always the .com. If it isn't available, get a different .com"
- sfoley 7y agoThat’s pretty much my policy. It baffles me that .io ever took off: 6x the cost, significantly reliable, and probably less trustworthy to the average user.
- ravenstine 7y agoCost and reliability notwithstanding, I don't think most businesses who own .io domain names are selling to the average customer.
- sokoloff 7y agoIn the scope of running most companies, it rounds the same as 6 times $0.
- mprev 7y agoIs there a precedent that points towards a possible outcome for .io? Has there been a similar case of a country ceasing to exist with an impact on its gtld?
- bhouston 7y agoSoviet Union. su: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.su https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.su Czechoslovakia. cs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.cs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.cs Yugoslavia. yu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.yu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.yu
- Someone 7y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_code_top-level_domain#Historical_ccTLDs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_code_top-level_domain#... The most surprising one, IMO, is .oz, which was used for Australia. So, a top level code was changed even though nothing substantial happened to the country.
- kabwj 7y agoI’m sure I saw this thread a few days ago with the same comments. Glitch?
- eps 7y agoMods sometimes boost an older post to the front page and patch up the timestamps on the comments. Perhaps that’s one on these?
- homero 7y agoI remember the .ly dangers around 2011
- creeble 7y agoAnyone know the fallout from that? I see fewer .ly domains in general use, but have there actually been registry policy changes?
- cryptos 7y agoI've always found the .io domain somewhat laughable for tech companies. Maybe its popularity was fueld by Google's I/O conference. But except of legal affairs the climate crisis is the next reason not to rely on this domain. If the humanity continues its course the ".io island" will soon be under water.
- tzs 7y ago> This week, the UN's general assembly voted overwhelmingly 116-6 to condemn the UK's occupation of the Chagos Islands. The non-binding resolution endorsed a decision by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in February that said the UK continued claim was illegal and the islands should be returned to the former British territory of Mauritius The UK is a permanent member of the UN Security Council and has veto power on all substantive matters taken up by the Council. Doesn't that mean that they can pretty much ignore anything the General Assembly or most other international bodies tell them to do, just like the United States, Russia, and China do, because actually enforcing anything usually involves something that ends up requiring some kind of action that will require Security Council approval?
- PatrolX 7y agoThe UK paid Mauritius £3m for the islands. Mauritius was happy with the deal. How is there anything illegal about it?
- dvdplm 7y agoSo if I pay your govt 3 million (or 3 billion (or 3 trillion)) in exchange I get to deport you, your family and everyone you know to wherever I want? Legal yeah?
- jdsully 7y agoWas the Louisiana Purchase not legal?
- untog 7y agoLegality isn't the issue here, it's morality.
- sammorrowdrums 7y agoThat said I think there is some evidence of potentially criminal activity in the treatment of those living on the islands. John Pilger famously made a documentary about it.
- robalfonso 7y agoThis is not the crisis it's being portrayed as. Up until a year or two ago. .io was run directly by the ICB. It had issues as it's not straight forward managing root level dns and the other related tasks of a registry. Since then a company called Afilias is running .io (they also run .org, .info among many others). Whoever maintains governance of the .io tld is separate from the actual infrastructure running .io. As long as the owners of .io want to keep cashing the checks then nothing will change as the whole operation is outsourced. This is similar to the island of tuvalu outsourcing all of .tv to verisign (they are the .com registry) Source: I work in the domain industry
- dmitrygr 7y agoI think the point is that if given to Mauritius, it will no longer be an independent territory and thus will no longer warrant a ccTLD. On the other hand, .su is still going strong
- cwmma 7y agoconsidering that the .su domain still works fine, I kinda doubt .io will ever go away even if the sea swallows the islands