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> After turning on, it starts applying security updates. Good. One month at a time. There are many months. This is bad. I have the same experience with a Pixel
by nextos 7y ago
> After turning on, it starts applying security updates. Good. One month at a time. There are many months. This is bad.
I have the same experience with a Pixel.
Today I bought a heavily discounted brand new Pixel 2, because I wanted to try (pure) Android (and migrate to pure AOSP afterwards). After booting the device, I was downloading updates for 6 hours while doing nothing else. I really wanted to like this phone, as I don't like iOS either. But I was disappointed. Not a polished experience at all.
First many updates of applications. Fine. Quite quick. Then updating Android 8 to 9. Quite quick too. Then an insane loop of installing nth security update and rebooting. Why can't I get a fresh image in a single step? [1] Especially given that this is a flagship device from Google itself?
Furthermore, the process is really slow and full of glitches. Sometimes updates would stop downloading because there was phone activity, yet I never touched the phone throughout the process. After every update, my phone would spend a lot of time and energy "optimizing apps" (bytecompiling?) only to request rebooting and doing the same thing again and again. Very wasteful.
Lastly, I never got any notification once updates where installed and a reboot was necessary. So I had to keep checking to speed up the process.
Updating from Android 8 to 9 was quick, but there was also a serious glitch I didn't mention. I don't have a wireless connection, just LTE. For some time, there was no option to force the update to be downloaded using LTE! After installing some app or rebooting, suddenly an option to go ahead and use LTE showed up in the same window where previously there was none.
Also, the default settings in my out-of-the-box Pixel 2 out drained battery quite quickly, which I found shocking. Only after disabling NFC, bluetooth, location services and a few other things battery consumption was quite reasonable. I think also lots of services were initially polling for updates, and this drained energy.
[1] Apparently you can do this with adb. Many other users have had the same frustrating experience, though: https://reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/b04yxp/brand_new_pixel_2_xl_followed_by_6_hours/ https://reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/b04yxp/brand_new_p...
- bitL 7y agoSeems like Android truly replaced Symbian, Google is the new Nokia! :D
- nextos 7y agoActually, I am migrating to Android from Nokia, but the Maemo/Meego branch (pure Linux) and it is really polished! My N9, a super slow phone from 2011 feels in some ways better than the Pixel 2 which I find sad. The UI design is top notch and blends so well with the curved AMOLED screen. Also, the device is capable of standing by on airplane mode for several days with its always on screen elegantly showing the time and calendar events. My Pixel 2 drains battery pretty fast in the same conditions. I cannot possibly understand how Google is not capable of providing users with a better experience despite so many years of work, resources and hardware improvements vs Nokia.
- bitL 7y agoI have N9 as well, still working ;-) Not a primary phone though, that is a Jolla one, with some iPhone, Android and WP10 in the mix...
- apl002 7y agothat sounds like an awful experience. All i can say is i did not experience any of this when i moved from an iphone 7 to pixel 2. I was actually impressed how much data transferred over and felt like it took less than 20min for everything to be done
- nextos 7y agoI thought I was doing something wrong. But if you read the r/pixel thread I linked above, many other users have the same unboxing experience. I will try to fill in a bug somewhere. It seems like Google needs to focus on providing a more coherent experience on all devices. Not focusing on just released ones. I understand the Android ecosystem is more complex than the iOS one. But still, the Pixel lineup is quite small.
- apl002 7y agoin my day job i work on my company's android team (and ios) so I am pretty familiar with a lot of android devices. I've never been a samsung or moto fan but I've had positive experiences with LG and the Pixel devices. Outside of the Pixel, I doubt google cares too much
- nextos 7y agoYes. What I meant is that Google only seems to care about the current Pixel i.e., Pixel 3 now. Pixel 2 was only discontinued a few weeks ago, and the unboxing experience is bad as I discussed above.