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As long as we keep (as a whole) letting a country that ground dissidents to a paste and washed the result down the sewers, drive our collective greed, we're fuc
by marak830 7y ago
As long as we keep (as a whole) letting a country that ground dissidents to a paste and washed the result down the sewers, drive our collective greed, we're fucked.
Note I'd prefer not to use the term greed above, it's just the most succinct for the situation but it is the reality.
Minus the invasion, we are pre ww2, concentration camps are happening and we are doing business with those practioners.
I and everyone I have an influence on, are refusing to buy Chinese goods, that's the limit of my power (which is fuck all honestly).
- Cyberdog 7y ago> I and everyone I have an influence on, are refusing to buy Chinese goods, that's the limit of my power (which is fuck all honestly). What device did you type this message on? Odds are very high it was assembled in China with a significant portion, if not majority, of Chinese-made components, and the company that sold it to you either has a significant presence in the Chinese market, or wishes it did. I understand the concern here, but for better or worse, China is where pretty much anything that uses transistors is made, and it's just not practical to boycott everything that passes through there. (Not to mention that it's not really fair to punish Chinese business-owners for the actions of their government when they have even less accountability over it than we do over ours. Is it fair for people of other countries to not buy from American companies because of our government's absurd incarceration rates?)
- coryrc 7y agoIt needs to be a collective action by the moral world to make a difference. Due to FPTP voting system, America will never again have a leader with the ability to ask the people to make a sacrifice for moral reasons. We no longer can implement treaties to get others to join collective action, and no other country wants to be or is powerful enough to be world policeman.
- pavel_lishin 7y agohttps://thenib.com/mister-gotcha https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha
- whoevercares 7y agoWhat’s your next step if you have more power? Is there a mechanism that prevent you from being a racist? Will you drop bombs for something you think it’s right
- cycrutchfield 7y agoWhy is refusing to support a totalitarian regime considered racist?
- dx87 7y agoI don't think it's racism, but I've seen people argue that since over 90% of China is a single ethnicity, there isn't a difference between refusing to do business with China, and refusing to do business with Chinese people. It seems like mental gymnastics to me, but it often feels like anti-China actions are confused with anti-Chinese actions.
- cyphar 7y agoThe same thing happens when people who criticise the policies of the Israeli government are called antisemitic. IMHO it's just a bad-faith smear to derail discussion of an issue.
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- whoevercares 7y agoPretty much as dx87 said. Honestly I know it’s not racism, but it feels so close for some reason and it might just because China is 99% single race and has been invaded and discriminated against so many times. The devil is in the subtleties. Please educate me if you wish.
- cycrutchfield 7y agoAsk anybody who refuses to do business with China whether they have any such qualms with doing business with Taiwan or with Chinese-Americans. I would be surprised if any significant percentage would. It’s very clear that most people have an issue with the Chinese government, not the Chinese people.