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So what now? Someone copies PageRank?

by sdan 7y ago

knbknb 7y ago
Maybe Stanford University no longer gets any license fees from Google for this patent. not sure
manigandham 7y ago
Nothing happens. Similar ranking systems are already in use and there's much more to a modern search engine anyway. It's just a small quirk of this very particular approach no longer being fully protected.
- deleted 7y ago
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kbumsik 7y ago
Nothing. Everybody freely has copied PageRank already. It has became one of the basic teaching material in graph theory. For example, NetworkX, a popular graph library in Python, implements PageRank. [1] [1] https://networkx.github.io/documentation/networkx-1.10/reference/generated/networkx.algorithms.link_analysis.pagerank_alg.pagerank.html https://networkx.github.io/documentation/networkx-1.10/refer...
- aitchnyu 7y ago
  Years back, graph dbs bragged about implementing PR in a few lines and ecologists using PR on species. https://neo4j.com/docs/graph-algorithms/current/algorithms/page-rank/ https://neo4j.com/docs/graph-algorithms/current/algorithms/p... https://phys.org/news/2009-09-web-page-algorithm-critical-species.html https://phys.org/news/2009-09-web-page-algorithm-critical-sp...
- kreetx 7y ago
  How does that work in the real world - do google simply not care, or it's "fair use" somehow?
  - acct1771 7y ago
    They'd only care if money gained - PR lost == profit.
  - rocqua 7y ago
    The patent is only for web search, so other applications dont infringe the patent.
    - bbrb 7y ago
      First sentence of the abstract of the patent: "A method assigns importance ranks to nodes in a linked database, such as any database of documents containing citations, the world wide web or any other hypermedia database."
pmlnr 7y ago
Hopefully everyone deprecates everything similar and we return to content based search, where pinterest and there rest freeze in the depth of hell.
- jfk13 7y ago
  > return to content based search It'll need to be a pretty sophisticated version of "content based search", or it'll just be overwhelmed by keyword stuffing and garbage auto-generated content.
spiderfarmer 7y ago
We already have Open Pagerank based on the Common Crawl.

So what now? Someone copies PageRank?

by sdan 7y ago

So what now? Someone copies PageRank?

knbknb 7y ago

Maybe Stanford University no longer gets any license fees from Google for this patent. not sure

manigandham 7y ago

Nothing happens. Similar ranking systems are already in use and there's much more to a modern search engine anyway. It's just a small quirk of this very particular approach no longer being fully protected.

deleted 7y ago
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kbumsik 7y ago

Nothing. Everybody freely has copied PageRank already. It has became one of the basic teaching material in graph theory. For example, NetworkX, a popular graph library in Python, implements PageRank. [1] [1] https://networkx.github.io/documentation/networkx-1.10/reference/generated/networkx.algorithms.link_analysis.pagerank_alg.pagerank.html https://networkx.github.io/documentation/networkx-1.10/refer...

aitchnyu 7y ago
Years back, graph dbs bragged about implementing PR in a few lines and ecologists using PR on species. https://neo4j.com/docs/graph-algorithms/current/algorithms/page-rank/ https://neo4j.com/docs/graph-algorithms/current/algorithms/p... https://phys.org/news/2009-09-web-page-algorithm-critical-species.html https://phys.org/news/2009-09-web-page-algorithm-critical-sp...
kreetx 7y ago
How does that work in the real world - do google simply not care, or it's "fair use" somehow?
- acct1771 7y ago
  They'd only care if money gained - PR lost == profit.
- rocqua 7y ago
  The patent is only for web search, so other applications dont infringe the patent.
  - bbrb 7y ago
    First sentence of the abstract of the patent: "A method assigns importance ranks to nodes in a linked database, such as any database of documents containing citations, the world wide web or any other hypermedia database."

pmlnr 7y ago

Hopefully everyone deprecates everything similar and we return to content based search, where pinterest and there rest freeze in the depth of hell.

jfk13 7y ago
> return to content based search It'll need to be a pretty sophisticated version of "content based search", or it'll just be overwhelmed by keyword stuffing and garbage auto-generated content.

spiderfarmer 7y ago

We already have Open Pagerank based on the Common Crawl.