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This seems like political posturing that's going to hurt the majority of employees if it passes. Will it hurt them more than making roughly minimum wage or le

This seems like political posturing that's going to hurt the majority of employees if it passes. Will it hurt them more than making roughly minimum wage or less? https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-how-much-uber-drivers-really-make-2018-05-15 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-how-much-uber-driv... Marketwatch is estimating under $11/hr with no insurance, no retirement benefits, etc. Even In-n-Out and Starbucks pay more, offer better benefits (even for part timers), and generally offer flexible schedules.

ravenstine 7y ago
Mostly no, because the majority of gig economy workers already have full time employment and are working for Uber or DoorDash to make supplemental income. I'm saying this as someone who drove for GrubHub for months and knew other drivers.
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pishpash 7y ago
So why don't they go work there then? Come back when you have an answer.
- inferiorhuman 7y ago
  So why don't they go work there then? Come back when you have an answer. You'd prefer that I answer "because gig economy companies provide unmatched flexibility and freedom to their employees^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hcontractors", right? I'm not really here to play that game, so how's this? - They may not work in an area where In-n-Out exists or Starbucks is hiring. Note: this doesn't mean that the other available low/no skill work pays less than Uber or other "gig economy" jobs. - They may not realize that retail work pays more than Uber or they may believe Uber's exaggerated wage claims while not realizing that Uber would continue to take a larger and larger share of the driver's earnings - They may have fallen prey to Uber's predatory financing and bought a vehicle expressly to drive for Uber - They may believe that working in "gig economy" serfdom makes financial sense. I've a friend like that. They "work" for Instacart, but instead of driving their own vehicle (which they're upside down on) they use Uber to get to the grocery store, then another Uber to the person's house, and then another Uber home. Trust me, it's costing them money to do this but in their head it makes sense - They could be Travis Kalanick and drive under the Boober[1] model — basically driving as a means of meeting sexual conquests. - They could believe that retail work is beneath them - Back before Uber was forced to institute background checks another option is that the driver failed a background check elsewhere or was otherwise unemployable in retail. 1: https://qz.com/1011300/uber-ceo-travis-kalanick-pissed-people-off-and-it-made-the-company-great/ https://qz.com/1011300/uber-ceo-travis-kalanick-pissed-peopl...
  - panitaxx 7y ago
    So basically your answer tldr is "gig economy workers are dumb and financial/life decisions must be made for them in group and disregarding their particular situation and free will"
    - inferiorhuman 7y ago
      Nope
    - pishpash 7y ago
      lol, for the people that parent describes, if the whole gig economy died, what kind of poor life decisions would they be making instead? What a ridiculous thought process to think the problem is the gig economy.
conanbatt 7y ago
What job will they get if this one stops existing?

ravenstine 7y ago

Mostly no, because the majority of gig economy workers already have full time employment and are working for Uber or DoorDash to make supplemental income. I'm saying this as someone who drove for GrubHub for months and knew other drivers.

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pishpash 7y ago

So why don't they go work there then? Come back when you have an answer.

inferiorhuman 7y ago
So why don't they go work there then? Come back when you have an answer. You'd prefer that I answer "because gig economy companies provide unmatched flexibility and freedom to their employees^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hcontractors", right? I'm not really here to play that game, so how's this? - They may not work in an area where In-n-Out exists or Starbucks is hiring. Note: this doesn't mean that the other available low/no skill work pays less than Uber or other "gig economy" jobs. - They may not realize that retail work pays more than Uber or they may believe Uber's exaggerated wage claims while not realizing that Uber would continue to take a larger and larger share of the driver's earnings - They may have fallen prey to Uber's predatory financing and bought a vehicle expressly to drive for Uber - They may believe that working in "gig economy" serfdom makes financial sense. I've a friend like that. They "work" for Instacart, but instead of driving their own vehicle (which they're upside down on) they use Uber to get to the grocery store, then another Uber to the person's house, and then another Uber home. Trust me, it's costing them money to do this but in their head it makes sense - They could be Travis Kalanick and drive under the Boober[1] model — basically driving as a means of meeting sexual conquests. - They could believe that retail work is beneath them - Back before Uber was forced to institute background checks another option is that the driver failed a background check elsewhere or was otherwise unemployable in retail. 1: https://qz.com/1011300/uber-ceo-travis-kalanick-pissed-people-off-and-it-made-the-company-great/ https://qz.com/1011300/uber-ceo-travis-kalanick-pissed-peopl...
- panitaxx 7y ago
  So basically your answer tldr is "gig economy workers are dumb and financial/life decisions must be made for them in group and disregarding their particular situation and free will"
  - inferiorhuman 7y ago
    Nope
  - pishpash 7y ago
    lol, for the people that parent describes, if the whole gig economy died, what kind of poor life decisions would they be making instead? What a ridiculous thought process to think the problem is the gig economy.

conanbatt 7y ago

What job will they get if this one stops existing?