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Are these apps open source? I'm curious to see if they changed mastodon in any meaningful way.

egypturnash 7y ago
From what I hear they took out all the moderation tools. edit: ah, here's the commit which does it. https://source.puri.sm/liberty/smilodon/commit/9cae431902a2c0ce6438c6722a3a901e279c78fc https://source.puri.sm/liberty/smilodon/commit/9cae431902a2c... "- Return error from reports REST API - Remove links to report in web UI - Reject reports from ActivityPub" (which is to say, if you're using it, the 'report' functionality is gone, and if someone on a remote instance hits the 'report' button on a toot from Purism and says 'send this report to my admin and Purism's admin' then Purism will just error out instead of accepting the error.) I really dunno what possessed Eugen to think that was a good idea. Apparently this commit has been reverted but I've still defederated my instance from Purism because who the hell knows when they'll think this sounds like a good plan again?
- jancsika 7y ago
  I don't understand why you'd have to dig through another instance's git history and make a judgment call based on a reverted implementation detail. Doesn't Mastodon have tools to notify the admin or even temporarily defederate based on X number of user reports from a given instance?
  - egypturnash 7y ago
    "Purism's instance removed all moderation tools" is the reason I have an opinion on them at all. I only realized they reverted that when linking to the commit where they broke it for my previous comment. I might change my mind on defederating them if the users of my instance weigh in, but forty years of growing up along with the Internet has given me a rather jaundiced view of the ability of people whose primary concerns are softwarefreedom* to make sensible moderation decisions. Especially when they've started from a position of "we can completely opt out of moderating our social software, it'll be great, I'm sure everyone will behave like adults" and had to be argued out of that.

From what I hear they took out all the moderation tools. edit: ah, here's the commit which does it. https://source.puri.sm/liberty/smilodon/commit/9cae431902a2c0ce6438c6722a3a901e279c78fc https://source.puri.sm/liberty/smilodon/commit/9cae431902a2c... "- Return error from reports REST API - Remove links to report in web UI - Reject reports from ActivityPub" (which is to say, if you're using it, the 'report' functionality is gone, and if someone on a remote instance hits the 'report' button on a toot from Purism and says 'send this report to my admin and Purism's admin' then Purism will just error out instead of accepting the error.) I really dunno what possessed Eugen to think that was a good idea. Apparently this commit has been reverted but I've still defederated my instance from Purism because who the hell knows when they'll think this sounds like a good plan again?

jancsika 7y ago
I don't understand why you'd have to dig through another instance's git history and make a judgment call based on a reverted implementation detail. Doesn't Mastodon have tools to notify the admin or even temporarily defederate based on X number of user reports from a given instance?
- egypturnash 7y ago
  "Purism's instance removed all moderation tools" is the reason I have an opinion on them at all. I only realized they reverted that when linking to the commit where they broke it for my previous comment. I might change my mind on defederating them if the users of my instance weigh in, but forty years of growing up along with the Internet has given me a rather jaundiced view of the ability of people whose primary concerns are softwarefreedom* to make sensible moderation decisions. Especially when they've started from a position of "we can completely opt out of moderating our social software, it'll be great, I'm sure everyone will behave like adults" and had to be argued out of that.