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In many places in the US having kids is actually not a choice but an obligation forced on women by lack of funding for reproductive service clinics by ignorant

In many places in the US having kids is actually not a choice but an obligation forced on women by lack of funding for reproductive service clinics by ignorant politicians and repeated attacks on the right to an abortion by right wing extremists. This is a very loaded conversation at the moment, but there are politicians who've said things like, if a woman is raped and becomes pregnant she should accept the gift that god gave her. The ability to have kids or not is one thing, the right to make the choice is another, and it's constantly being attacked by religious extremists.

taborj 7y ago
> This is a very loaded conversation at the moment And your choice of words to describe the situation certainly aren't helping. In fact, they're causing more harm than good, as you present one side as good and kind, and the other side as evil incarnate. In other words, this is a complex situation, and you're part of the problem.
- wedn3sday 7y ago
  That might be because one side is good and kind, and the other is evil. Sure, there's two sides of every argument, but we can sit here all day an no matter what you tell me the sky will still be blue. The comment I responded to was saying, "having kids is a choice," to which I say, "many people are being forced to have kids they dont want." Forcing unwanted births is a specific policy objective pursued by a group of people pushing they're religious views on others.
- dang 7y ago
  > you're part of the problem A personal attack like this makes a hellish thread worse still. We ban accounts that post like that. Would you mind reviewing the site guidelines and following them? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
hnaccy 7y ago
If you can't afford condoms don't have sex. 23% of those 18-30 aren't having sex and they're not dying. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-ame...

taborj 7y ago

> This is a very loaded conversation at the moment And your choice of words to describe the situation certainly aren't helping. In fact, they're causing more harm than good, as you present one side as good and kind, and the other side as evil incarnate. In other words, this is a complex situation, and you're part of the problem.

wedn3sday 7y ago
That might be because one side is good and kind, and the other is evil. Sure, there's two sides of every argument, but we can sit here all day an no matter what you tell me the sky will still be blue. The comment I responded to was saying, "having kids is a choice," to which I say, "many people are being forced to have kids they dont want." Forcing unwanted births is a specific policy objective pursued by a group of people pushing they're religious views on others.
dang 7y ago
> you're part of the problem A personal attack like this makes a hellish thread worse still. We ban accounts that post like that. Would you mind reviewing the site guidelines and following them? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

hnaccy 7y ago

If you can't afford condoms don't have sex. 23% of those 18-30 aren't having sex and they're not dying. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-ame...