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It's all political marketing to make consumers continue to feel good about being screwed over more and more by corporate policy following demands of the very we

It's all political marketing to make consumers continue to feel good about being screwed over more and more by corporate policy following demands of the very wealthy.

WillPostForFood 7y ago
What’s the point of this level of cynical response when a good bill passes? Let’s give some props and do more good things, not sulk.
- darkpuma 7y ago
  It's a good bill iff it proves effective. I'm optimistic that it will, but that still remains to be seen. (An ineffective bill can be worse than none at all, since it's existence may confuse people who believe they have protection when in reality the legislation is less effective than their perception of it.)
- beecat 7y ago
  Good, and good enough, are two totally different things.
- dredmorbius 7y ago
  This is passed legislation (and it's not yet clear to me if it's passed one or both houses). It has yet to be signed into law, enforced, or litigated. Given past track records on such matters, there's ample room for pessimism.
dang 7y ago
Could you please stop posting ideological flamebait to HN? It breaks the guidelines and is not what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- Frost1x 7y ago
  How is it a flamebait? If you create and pass toothless legislation that can be nullified by agreeing to a private contractual agreement that overrules said legislation, it doesn't serve anything but a facade to mislead those it purports to protect. Intent is of course always questionable and unknowable but if the trend is passing legislation with deceitful naming conventions and summaries that confuse the average citizen, it's shameful. There are cases where private contracts have been ruled invalid when they step deeply on constitutional rights, but even those are typically the exception, not the rule, and require time, money, and risk to pursue litigation on behalf of the individual which not all are inclined or even capable of pursing.

It's all political marketing to make consumers continue to feel good about being screwed over more and more by corporate policy following demands of the very wealthy.

WillPostForFood 7y ago

What’s the point of this level of cynical response when a good bill passes? Let’s give some props and do more good things, not sulk.

darkpuma 7y ago
It's a good bill iff it proves effective. I'm optimistic that it will, but that still remains to be seen. (An ineffective bill can be worse than none at all, since it's existence may confuse people who believe they have protection when in reality the legislation is less effective than their perception of it.)
beecat 7y ago
Good, and good enough, are two totally different things.
dredmorbius 7y ago
This is passed legislation (and it's not yet clear to me if it's passed one or both houses). It has yet to be signed into law, enforced, or litigated. Given past track records on such matters, there's ample room for pessimism.

dang 7y ago

Could you please stop posting ideological flamebait to HN? It breaks the guidelines and is not what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Frost1x 7y ago
How is it a flamebait? If you create and pass toothless legislation that can be nullified by agreeing to a private contractual agreement that overrules said legislation, it doesn't serve anything but a facade to mislead those it purports to protect. Intent is of course always questionable and unknowable but if the trend is passing legislation with deceitful naming conventions and summaries that confuse the average citizen, it's shameful. There are cases where private contracts have been ruled invalid when they step deeply on constitutional rights, but even those are typically the exception, not the rule, and require time, money, and risk to pursue litigation on behalf of the individual which not all are inclined or even capable of pursing.