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Wood and a sprinkler system will be far better than concrete in this instance for aesthetics, cultural homage and many reasons. Rebuilding it in concrete would

by Zenst 7y ago

Wood and a sprinkler system will be far better than concrete in this instance for aesthetics, cultural homage and many reasons. Rebuilding it in concrete would see the French in uproar. But one long standing issue we keep running across is how to fight fires in high buildings is an area that could do with some financial and invitation. Until then - sprinkler systems for such buildings should be a priority.

argd678 7y ago
I think there are some solutions here, at least for better fire detection: https://www.flir.com/discover/instruments/manufacturing/thermal-imaging-cameras-for-warehouse-asset-protection/ https://www.flir.com/discover/instruments/manufacturing/ther...
trhway 7y ago
>Rebuilding it in concrete would see the French in uproar. i somehow expect and hope that the French will intentionally rebuild it in some very new, "into the 3rd millenium", style which definitely would put half the country and the world into uproar, yet will become a great cultural icon 50-100 years down the road - ie. a story similar to Eiffel tower.
- cr0sh 7y ago
  Though I don't expect it to happen in this case, I wonder if some kind of wood and metal composite structure couldn't be implemented? I'm certainly not an architect or engineer; maybe that suggestion is currently impossible. Ideally it would be interesting if you could do something almost akin to 3D printing, or maybe closer to how plywood is made, but using wood fiber. I'm imagining something like long fibers of wood, intermixed with stainless steel or aluminum "wire", and molded using resin binders in the forms and shapes needed for the trusses and beams, etc. From the outside, it should look almost like regular wood, but with some of the strength characteristics of the metal (though now that I think about it, it probably wouldn't work in sheer or compression; tensile strength might be ok). What would be even more amazing, though I can't think of a way to do it, would be a wood/metal composite where the metal was a 3D organic-like lattice with the wood in between; I can imagine such a thing, but not a way to manufacture it (at least not with today's technology).
- hef19898 7y ago
  Apparently they are already recruiting stonemasons from all over Europe from other historic churches. The head of the reconstruction effort is, AFAIK the firmer head of of Cologne's cathedral stonemasonry / maintenance crew. And the first woman to reach such a position. She got recalled from retirement Well, now that will definitely lead to shortage of the experts elsewhere in Europe. But I'm not too worried about Notre Dame. Could also proof to be a field day for archeologists from all over the world.
jandrese 7y ago
A sprinkler system might be almost as bad as a fire to the artworks housed in the building.
BurningFrog 7y ago
> Rebuilding it in concrete would see the French in uproar. The French are always in uproar. Only half joking.

by Zenst 7y ago

argd678 7y ago

I think there are some solutions here, at least for better fire detection: https://www.flir.com/discover/instruments/manufacturing/thermal-imaging-cameras-for-warehouse-asset-protection/ https://www.flir.com/discover/instruments/manufacturing/ther...

trhway 7y ago

>Rebuilding it in concrete would see the French in uproar. i somehow expect and hope that the French will intentionally rebuild it in some very new, "into the 3rd millenium", style which definitely would put half the country and the world into uproar, yet will become a great cultural icon 50-100 years down the road - ie. a story similar to Eiffel tower.

cr0sh 7y ago
Though I don't expect it to happen in this case, I wonder if some kind of wood and metal composite structure couldn't be implemented? I'm certainly not an architect or engineer; maybe that suggestion is currently impossible. Ideally it would be interesting if you could do something almost akin to 3D printing, or maybe closer to how plywood is made, but using wood fiber. I'm imagining something like long fibers of wood, intermixed with stainless steel or aluminum "wire", and molded using resin binders in the forms and shapes needed for the trusses and beams, etc. From the outside, it should look almost like regular wood, but with some of the strength characteristics of the metal (though now that I think about it, it probably wouldn't work in sheer or compression; tensile strength might be ok). What would be even more amazing, though I can't think of a way to do it, would be a wood/metal composite where the metal was a 3D organic-like lattice with the wood in between; I can imagine such a thing, but not a way to manufacture it (at least not with today's technology).
hef19898 7y ago
Apparently they are already recruiting stonemasons from all over Europe from other historic churches. The head of the reconstruction effort is, AFAIK the firmer head of of Cologne's cathedral stonemasonry / maintenance crew. And the first woman to reach such a position. She got recalled from retirement Well, now that will definitely lead to shortage of the experts elsewhere in Europe. But I'm not too worried about Notre Dame. Could also proof to be a field day for archeologists from all over the world.

jandrese 7y ago

A sprinkler system might be almost as bad as a fire to the artworks housed in the building.

BurningFrog 7y ago

> Rebuilding it in concrete would see the French in uproar. The French are always in uproar. Only half joking.