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Agreed. I have talked to people at JPL and all their tools are completely outdated, they have no room for creativity and everything they do is constantly watche

Agreed. I have talked to people at JPL and all their tools are completely outdated, they have no room for creativity and everything they do is constantly watched and reviewed. Unless you are way up in leadership this doesn’t seem much fun. Maybe it works at a startup where they try do something completely new but as soon as your stuff gets close to production it won’t be much fun.

mturmon 7y ago
This is an over generalization. There’s a big range of agility at JPL depending on how close your work is to spacecraft operations. Here are two current job openings placed by good groups at JPL that many people here would find challenging and innovative — https://jpl.jobs/jobs/2018-9779-Senior-Software-Engineer-Autonomous-Space-Systems https://jpl.jobs/jobs/2018-9779-Senior-Software-Engineer-Aut... (group webpage: https://ai.jpl.nasa.gov/ https://ai.jpl.nasa.gov/) https://jpl.jobs/jobs/2019-10706-Big-Data-Analytics-Software-Engineer https://jpl.jobs/jobs/2019-10706-Big-Data-Analytics-Software...
- maxxxxx 7y ago
  I think what they build doesn’t run on any probe but on Earth so the world doesn’t go under if they make mistakes . It’s the same in medical. The closer you get to the patient the more regulation you get.
  - mturmon 7y ago
    I agree with your medical analogy. Like I said, there’s a range of work at JPL, and some of the autonomy work by the linked group most definitely has run on Mars and in Earth orbit.
  - abecedarius 7y ago
    I worked for that AI group for a little while 20 years ago. It was one of my favorite jobs, but did not pay competitively (maybe it would've if I'd had a degree) and you're right that my code never flew (though others had better luck there). Oh, to continue the theme I also interviewed for a couple of startups spun off by JPL people. The one that got to an offer offered way less money than the big internet company I was also interviewing with then.

mturmon 7y ago

This is an over generalization. There’s a big range of agility at JPL depending on how close your work is to spacecraft operations. Here are two current job openings placed by good groups at JPL that many people here would find challenging and innovative — https://jpl.jobs/jobs/2018-9779-Senior-Software-Engineer-Autonomous-Space-Systems https://jpl.jobs/jobs/2018-9779-Senior-Software-Engineer-Aut... (group webpage: https://ai.jpl.nasa.gov/ https://ai.jpl.nasa.gov/) https://jpl.jobs/jobs/2019-10706-Big-Data-Analytics-Software-Engineer https://jpl.jobs/jobs/2019-10706-Big-Data-Analytics-Software...

maxxxxx 7y ago
I think what they build doesn’t run on any probe but on Earth so the world doesn’t go under if they make mistakes . It’s the same in medical. The closer you get to the patient the more regulation you get.
- mturmon 7y ago
  I agree with your medical analogy. Like I said, there’s a range of work at JPL, and some of the autonomy work by the linked group most definitely has run on Mars and in Earth orbit.
- abecedarius 7y ago
  I worked for that AI group for a little while 20 years ago. It was one of my favorite jobs, but did not pay competitively (maybe it would've if I'd had a degree) and you're right that my code never flew (though others had better luck there). Oh, to continue the theme I also interviewed for a couple of startups spun off by JPL people. The one that got to an offer offered way less money than the big internet company I was also interviewing with then.