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> When Assange’s popular recognition fell, and Ecuador’s political incentives changed, the asylum was rescinded. An important side note: this is the why the st
by jMyles 7y ago
> When Assange’s popular recognition fell, and Ecuador’s political incentives changed, the asylum was rescinded.
An important side note: this is the why the state always attacks the personality and popularity of activists, and why it's important to defend personalities and people.
For example, let me say that, having met Cody Wilson several times and spending several hours with him on a couple of occasions (and moderating a panel on which he sat), I found him to be an absolute standup guy. He seems like a genuine patriot to me and a person of big heart and bravery.
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- pjc50 7y agoThis guy? https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/01/texas-indicts-cody-wilson-on-multiple-counts-of-sexual-assault-of-a-minor/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/01/texas-indicts-co... It's absolutely routine for basically anyone accused of sexual assault to find a whole bunch of men reporting that they seemed to be a standup guy. That doesn't mean they remain a standup guy when left alone around women.
- satokema_work 7y agoWhy can't they just be a standup guy that has issues dealing with women in specific circumstances? Why are they defined by that specific case and not their holistic behavior?
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- anbop 7y agoWhy can’t Josef Stalin just be a standup defender of the arts that has issues with killing people in specific circumstances?
- dang 7y agoPlease don't take HN threads further into flamewar. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- danharaj 7y agoJudging someone for their holistic behavior doesn't mean ignoring their sexual assault. What are you even asking?
- jMyles 7y ago> That doesn't mean they remain a standup guy when left alone around women. Agreed, of course. I'm just speaking of my own experience.
- SamReidHughes 7y agoWell that's quite a lie you've made here. He didn't sexually assault anybody, it was consensual with a minor.
- troutwine 7y agoConsensual sex with a minor isn't by definition. I mean, even the _charges_ say 'sexual assault', so this is not something the GP is inventing out of thin air.
- tomp 7y agoThe fact that different countries have different cutoff ages for statutory rape (the girl was 16, whereas some countries set the limit to be as low as 15, in particular most of Europe is 16 or below) makes this much less of a clear cut than your comment implies.
- verall 7y agoIt really isn't a lie. The state of Texas considers a 30 year old man fucking around with a "girl younger than 17 years" to be sexual assault. He has been charged with 4 counts of sexual assault.
- SamReidHughes 7y agoThe state of Reality considers getting entrapped into hiring an underage prostitute to not be sexual assault, and insinuations about it being dangerous to leave him alone with women are vile trash.
- quannah 7y agoHe met the girl via a website that claimed to be age-verified. Turns out she lied about her age, and the site didn't actually (properly) verify her. He still should've verified her age himself, but it kinda changes the narrative.
- xeeeeeeeeeeenu 7y agoThe girl was 16, which means what he did is perfectly legal in most of Europe.
- gamblor956 7y agoInteresting choice of examples. Cody was accused of sexually assaulting an under-age girl and fled to Taiwan to avoid arrest... Innocent people don't run. Especially not before they've even seen what the evidence against them is.
- JumpCrisscross 7y ago> fled to Taiwan to avoid arrest “He had not been charged when he went to Taiwan, so he is not considered to have fled the country“ [1]. Based on the original story, there should be plenty of evidence forthcoming. No need to jump to conclusions. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/business/cody-wilson-arrested-taiwan-sexual-assault.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/business/cody-wilson-arre...
- gamblor956 7y agoPolice have said that Wilson flew to Taipei before they were able to interview him about the allegations. He never took his scheduled flight back to the United States. https://www.texastribune.org/2018/09/21/3d-printed-gun-designer-cody-wilson-reportedly-arrested-taiwan/ https://www.texastribune.org/2018/09/21/3d-printed-gun-desig...
- thanksDr 7y ago> Innocent people don't run. What a bootlicker you are! Every jew who fled the Nazis was a criminal according to the law. Should they have stayed to face the charges against them to satisfy you?
- dang 7y agoWould you please stop posting flamebait and unsubstantive comments to HN? You've been doing it a lot, unfortunately. Continuing like this will not only get this account banned, but your main account as well. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use this site as intended instead, we'd be grateful.
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- dang 7y agoWe detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20061064 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20061064 and marked it off-topic.
- jMyles 7y agoFair enough.