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I think my non-native English prevents me from fully understanding your question, but I'd say in general terms what is described in the article is what happened

I think my non-native English prevents me from fully understanding your question, but I'd say in general terms what is described in the article is what happened: - Party A takes the council 4 years ago - Party A implements the low emissions zone - Party B goes into elections campaign championing a reverse of the LEZ. The quote about they saying pollution and jams are part of the city's identity is true. - Party B does not win the election but, because of how the system works, they could take the council by joining forces with other parties (who were also against the LEZ) - If last point indeed happens, then they will revert the LZE Actually, it is very possible that the LZE cannot be reverted because of EU's restrictions and fines for pollution quotas. Some media that are sided to Party B and were very critical of Party A and the LZE are now changing headlines to blame EU for the LZE, in what looks like a damage control operation now that they realise the possibility of their promise being not able to be fulfilled. Source: I live somewhere some consider is Spain and some not.

lentil_soup 7y ago
and do you know WHY they want to reverse the LEZ? are there any real reasons further than the opposing party implemented it so I must be against it?
- mezod 7y ago
  for the same reason Trump doesn't believe in climate change, because they are douches who only think of the $ in their pockets
- ihaveajob 7y ago
  Car-centric mindset. Some people it's their birthright to drive anywhere and park their cars for free in front of the place.
gman83 7y ago
Source: I live somewhere some consider is Spain and some not. Gibraltar?
- g_sch 7y ago
  In Spain, there are multiple things GP could be referring to. Many people in Catalonia consider themselves to not be part of Spain. This could also apply to País Vasco, a.k.a. Basque Country.
  - cernunos 7y ago
    About Basque Country: - New Poll shows rising number of Basque Country residents want to remain in Spain [1] - Only 26.9% of Basques want independence from Spain (2017) [2] - 23% of Basques want independence (2019) [3] [1] https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2018/12/07/new-poll-shows-rising-number-of-basque-country-residents-want-to-remain-in-spain https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2018/12/07/new-poll-shows-ris... [2] https://elpais.com/politica/2017/06/23/actualidad/1498213521_535228.html https://elpais.com/politica/2017/06/23/actualidad/1498213521... [3] https://www.lavanguardia.com/local/paisvasco/20190412/461599804919/sociometro-vascos-independencia-euskadi-encuesta.html https://www.lavanguardia.com/local/paisvasco/20190412/461599...
- enriquto 7y ago
  LOL, nobody considers Gibraltar as Spain. Source: I was born somewhere some consider is Spain and some not.
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kwcts 7y ago
People hated the LEZ. Things were going well, more or less, for Party A until they implemented it. They made the huge mistake of implementing the LEZ right before the election and they got rightly sacked. The council should work for its citizens. This is just democracy at work.
- perfunctory 7y ago
  Why did people hate the LEZ in your opinion? EDIT: Article says “City centre residents are happy with the LEZ “
  - enriquto 7y ago
    It's probably residents far from the city center that hate the LEZ. Most residents in the center would likely prefer the whole center to be closed to cars, as public transportation is quite good there. Notice that the politician in question is not a candidate for mayor of the city, it's the candidate governor of the whole region around the city.
    - NullPrefix 7y ago
      > Most residents in the center would likely prefer the whole center to be closed to cars, as public transportation is quite good there. Are you speaking specifically about residents from Madrid center or just generic city center residents?
  - kwcts 7y ago
    They wanted to be able to use their cars, obviously. Why else?
- PunchTornado 7y ago
  you have a weird definition of democracy if you think that the councils should do whatever their citizens want as a majority. thousands of people are dying in big cities from pollution and the local government should take unpopular actions to tackle climate change. of course nobody wants to be affected in any way by climate change, they want other people to do it.
cernunos 7y ago
> Party B does not win the election but, because of how the system works, they could take the council by joining forces with other parties (who were also against the LEZ) Isn't that how democracy works? I know that the system maybe could be improved but that's how the game is. In fact, the current Prime Minister started its government the same way.

lentil_soup 7y ago

and do you know WHY they want to reverse the LEZ? are there any real reasons further than the opposing party implemented it so I must be against it?

mezod 7y ago
for the same reason Trump doesn't believe in climate change, because they are douches who only think of the $ in their pockets
ihaveajob 7y ago
Car-centric mindset. Some people it's their birthright to drive anywhere and park their cars for free in front of the place.

gman83 7y ago

Source: I live somewhere some consider is Spain and some not. Gibraltar?

g_sch 7y ago
In Spain, there are multiple things GP could be referring to. Many people in Catalonia consider themselves to not be part of Spain. This could also apply to País Vasco, a.k.a. Basque Country.
- cernunos 7y ago
  About Basque Country: - New Poll shows rising number of Basque Country residents want to remain in Spain [1] - Only 26.9% of Basques want independence from Spain (2017) [2] - 23% of Basques want independence (2019) [3] [1] https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2018/12/07/new-poll-shows-rising-number-of-basque-country-residents-want-to-remain-in-spain https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2018/12/07/new-poll-shows-ris... [2] https://elpais.com/politica/2017/06/23/actualidad/1498213521_535228.html https://elpais.com/politica/2017/06/23/actualidad/1498213521... [3] https://www.lavanguardia.com/local/paisvasco/20190412/461599804919/sociometro-vascos-independencia-euskadi-encuesta.html https://www.lavanguardia.com/local/paisvasco/20190412/461599...
enriquto 7y ago
LOL, nobody considers Gibraltar as Spain. Source: I was born somewhere some consider is Spain and some not.

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kwcts 7y ago

People hated the LEZ. Things were going well, more or less, for Party A until they implemented it. They made the huge mistake of implementing the LEZ right before the election and they got rightly sacked. The council should work for its citizens. This is just democracy at work.

perfunctory 7y ago
Why did people hate the LEZ in your opinion? EDIT: Article says “City centre residents are happy with the LEZ “
- enriquto 7y ago
  It's probably residents far from the city center that hate the LEZ. Most residents in the center would likely prefer the whole center to be closed to cars, as public transportation is quite good there. Notice that the politician in question is not a candidate for mayor of the city, it's the candidate governor of the whole region around the city.
  - NullPrefix 7y ago
    > Most residents in the center would likely prefer the whole center to be closed to cars, as public transportation is quite good there. Are you speaking specifically about residents from Madrid center or just generic city center residents?
- kwcts 7y ago
  They wanted to be able to use their cars, obviously. Why else?
PunchTornado 7y ago
you have a weird definition of democracy if you think that the councils should do whatever their citizens want as a majority. thousands of people are dying in big cities from pollution and the local government should take unpopular actions to tackle climate change. of course nobody wants to be affected in any way by climate change, they want other people to do it.

cernunos 7y ago

> Party B does not win the election but, because of how the system works, they could take the council by joining forces with other parties (who were also against the LEZ) Isn't that how democracy works? I know that the system maybe could be improved but that's how the game is. In fact, the current Prime Minister started its government the same way.