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Family Sues Tesla After Model X Accident

11 points by benburleson 7y ago

andrewtbham 7y ago
fud
- kyshoc 7y ago
  where? "Family sues Tesla after accident" is a fact.
  - benjohnson 7y ago
    It's FUD because there's nothing special about this incident- all three of my cars (Buick, Dodge, and Suzuki) would have behaved the same way if I left the ignition on and my unsupervised child hit the breaks to moved it onto drive.
- dang 7y ago
  Please don't post unsubstantive comments here.
fuzz4lyfe 7y ago
"Tesla explained its vehicles continuously record and transmit operational and diagnostic data to the company’s servers. The data from Halcourt’s Model X showed its engine was actually not turned off, and that soon after Halcourt’s toddler entered the SUV through the open back door and crawled into the driver’s seat, he first pressed the brake pedal then shifted the gear selector to Drive. “Over the next 6 seconds, the vehicle continued to be in Drive gear with the brake pedal pressed until the accelerator pedal was pressed and the brake pedal was released,” Tesla stated. “In the next 4 seconds, while varying manual pressure continued to be applied to the accelerator pedal, the vehicle speed increase was consistent with the pressure applied to the accelerator pedal. Then, the brake pedal was pressed including activation of the Anti-Lock Braking System, the accelerator pedal was released, and the vehicle came to a stop.” I'm not a Tesla Fanboy or anything but if this is true I don't see how they are at fault.
- andrewtbham 7y ago
  i seriously think people are paid to post these stories to spread fud. they are non-stop on all social media. this is not interesting at all... she left her car running and her child put the car in gear. this story should be removed.
  - grillvogel 7y ago
    how does a 2 year old reach the brake pedal while shifting the car into gear?
    - ASalazarMX 7y ago
      It's impossible, right? What could possible happen if you leave the engine on?
- swagasaurus-rex 7y ago
  A toddler operating a vehicle is a possibility in almost all consumer cars, especially when not turned off. Only manual transmission cars provide a challenging enough interface that a young child mimicking the motions of driving couldn't accidentally cause an accident.
- unicornporn 7y ago
  The level of data recorded... Surveillance on 4 wheels.
  - dgzl 7y ago
    The problem isn't that the data is collected, it's that Tesla is the one collecting it and not the owner. But honestly, the average person isn't going to care about or even be capable of maintaining that. So really we could just consider this to be a valuable service Tesla is offering. Even more so, imagine if Tesla had to defend their driving systems from lawsuits without having access to this data. I'm not sure they'd be able to survive as well as they do.
swagasaurus-rex 7y ago
> "The data from Halcourt’s Model X showed its engine was actually not turned off, and that soon after Halcourt’s toddler entered the SUV through the open back door and crawled into the driver’s seat, he first pressed the brake pedal then shifted the gear selector to Drive."
- benburleson 7y ago
  A couple problems with this statement is that there is no "engine" and there is no notion of turning the Tesla "off."
  - deleted 7y ago
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isalmon 7y ago
>> soon after Halcourt’s toddler entered the SUV through the open back door and crawled into the driver’s seat, he first pressed the brake pedal then shifted the gear selector to Drive How is it even possible for a 2 year old? The whole story is just really hard to believe

11 points by benburleson 7y ago

andrewtbham 7y ago

fud

kyshoc 7y ago
where? "Family sues Tesla after accident" is a fact.
- benjohnson 7y ago
  It's FUD because there's nothing special about this incident- all three of my cars (Buick, Dodge, and Suzuki) would have behaved the same way if I left the ignition on and my unsupervised child hit the breaks to moved it onto drive.
dang 7y ago
Please don't post unsubstantive comments here.

fuzz4lyfe 7y ago

"Tesla explained its vehicles continuously record and transmit operational and diagnostic data to the company’s servers. The data from Halcourt’s Model X showed its engine was actually not turned off, and that soon after Halcourt’s toddler entered the SUV through the open back door and crawled into the driver’s seat, he first pressed the brake pedal then shifted the gear selector to Drive. “Over the next 6 seconds, the vehicle continued to be in Drive gear with the brake pedal pressed until the accelerator pedal was pressed and the brake pedal was released,” Tesla stated. “In the next 4 seconds, while varying manual pressure continued to be applied to the accelerator pedal, the vehicle speed increase was consistent with the pressure applied to the accelerator pedal. Then, the brake pedal was pressed including activation of the Anti-Lock Braking System, the accelerator pedal was released, and the vehicle came to a stop.” I'm not a Tesla Fanboy or anything but if this is true I don't see how they are at fault.

andrewtbham 7y ago
i seriously think people are paid to post these stories to spread fud. they are non-stop on all social media. this is not interesting at all... she left her car running and her child put the car in gear. this story should be removed.
- grillvogel 7y ago
  how does a 2 year old reach the brake pedal while shifting the car into gear?
  - ASalazarMX 7y ago
    It's impossible, right? What could possible happen if you leave the engine on?
swagasaurus-rex 7y ago
A toddler operating a vehicle is a possibility in almost all consumer cars, especially when not turned off. Only manual transmission cars provide a challenging enough interface that a young child mimicking the motions of driving couldn't accidentally cause an accident.
unicornporn 7y ago
The level of data recorded... Surveillance on 4 wheels.
- dgzl 7y ago
  The problem isn't that the data is collected, it's that Tesla is the one collecting it and not the owner. But honestly, the average person isn't going to care about or even be capable of maintaining that. So really we could just consider this to be a valuable service Tesla is offering. Even more so, imagine if Tesla had to defend their driving systems from lawsuits without having access to this data. I'm not sure they'd be able to survive as well as they do.

swagasaurus-rex 7y ago

> "The data from Halcourt’s Model X showed its engine was actually not turned off, and that soon after Halcourt’s toddler entered the SUV through the open back door and crawled into the driver’s seat, he first pressed the brake pedal then shifted the gear selector to Drive."

benburleson 7y ago
A couple problems with this statement is that there is no "engine" and there is no notion of turning the Tesla "off."
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]

isalmon 7y ago

>> soon after Halcourt’s toddler entered the SUV through the open back door and crawled into the driver’s seat, he first pressed the brake pedal then shifted the gear selector to Drive How is it even possible for a 2 year old? The whole story is just really hard to believe