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I agree. It is truly unbelievable. Same with user goodwill. Microsoft is vaccuuming it all up. Meanwhile Microsoft is making tons of great moves to get devs an

by hodder 7y ago

I agree. It is truly unbelievable. Same with user goodwill. Microsoft is vaccuuming it all up. Meanwhile Microsoft is making tons of great moves to get devs and users back on their side.

BlueTemplar 7y ago
You have to read that comment from a long-time Microsoft developer : https://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/all/2019/05/24/github_is_independent_despite_microsoft_acquisition_insists_ceo/#c_3790513 https://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/all/2019/05/24/github...
- ralph84 7y ago
  Meh, he lost me when he tried to say Microsoft success in cloud is due to Office. Microsoft's success in cloud is due to having a good enough cloud platform and being better at selling to enterprises than Amazon or Google. IBM and Oracle can sell to enterprises but lost because their cloud platforms suck.
  - BlueTemplar 7y ago
    MSOffice gives a pretty big advantage when you want to sell to enterprises ! And I've heard that these days, Office 365 collaborative work is at least as good as Google Docs, if not better !
    - wayneftw 7y ago
      So, in your opinion, Microsoft is a bad company because they have a better product and they're using it to make money from other corporations? Wow, that's pretty damning!
- midnitewarrior 7y ago
  The referenced comment rehashes the evils of Ballmer's Microsoft which Nadella has mostly corrected. Satya Nadella has embraced (but not extended!) Open Source. Their Azure strategy puts all platforms on a level playing field - yet has also made Azure an incredible place to make Windows/Microsoft technologies shine. It's a great place for all apps. Yes, they control Office and are the defacto office document standard. What they do with Office now is affordable and ubiquitous. No other office document suite can do this. They are a for-profit company, and Office serves their customers very well. Yes, in Ballmer's days this wan't the case, but today you can run Office (365/Cloud) on a Chromebook and on Android and iPhone as supported apps.
  - BlueTemplar 7y ago
    Do you live in a parallel universe where it was Ballmer and not Steve Jobs that founded Microsoft and was its CEO in 1995 ?
mattoxic 7y ago
There comes a time in every corporate's life where good will is neither important nor needed.
msiyer 7y ago
And what do you think will happen when all devs and users join Microsoft? The same cycle will repeat.
- midnitewarrior 7y ago
  Linux and Open Source tech is a huge part of Azure now. They profit from people using Linux on Azure. They don't have a reason to chase customers away when they are making money from them.
gregknicholson 7y ago
Such as switching their browser to be based on Chromium, which is controlled by Google?

by hodder 7y ago

I agree. It is truly unbelievable. Same with user goodwill. Microsoft is vaccuuming it all up. Meanwhile Microsoft is making tons of great moves to get devs and users back on their side.

BlueTemplar 7y ago

You have to read that comment from a long-time Microsoft developer : https://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/all/2019/05/24/github_is_independent_despite_microsoft_acquisition_insists_ceo/#c_3790513 https://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/all/2019/05/24/github...

ralph84 7y ago
Meh, he lost me when he tried to say Microsoft success in cloud is due to Office. Microsoft's success in cloud is due to having a good enough cloud platform and being better at selling to enterprises than Amazon or Google. IBM and Oracle can sell to enterprises but lost because their cloud platforms suck.
- BlueTemplar 7y ago
  MSOffice gives a pretty big advantage when you want to sell to enterprises ! And I've heard that these days, Office 365 collaborative work is at least as good as Google Docs, if not better !
  - wayneftw 7y ago
    So, in your opinion, Microsoft is a bad company because they have a better product and they're using it to make money from other corporations? Wow, that's pretty damning!
midnitewarrior 7y ago
The referenced comment rehashes the evils of Ballmer's Microsoft which Nadella has mostly corrected. Satya Nadella has embraced (but not extended!) Open Source. Their Azure strategy puts all platforms on a level playing field - yet has also made Azure an incredible place to make Windows/Microsoft technologies shine. It's a great place for all apps. Yes, they control Office and are the defacto office document standard. What they do with Office now is affordable and ubiquitous. No other office document suite can do this. They are a for-profit company, and Office serves their customers very well. Yes, in Ballmer's days this wan't the case, but today you can run Office (365/Cloud) on a Chromebook and on Android and iPhone as supported apps.
- BlueTemplar 7y ago
  Do you live in a parallel universe where it was Ballmer and not Steve Jobs that founded Microsoft and was its CEO in 1995 ?

mattoxic 7y ago

There comes a time in every corporate's life where good will is neither important nor needed.

msiyer 7y ago

And what do you think will happen when all devs and users join Microsoft? The same cycle will repeat.

midnitewarrior 7y ago
Linux and Open Source tech is a huge part of Azure now. They profit from people using Linux on Azure. They don't have a reason to chase customers away when they are making money from them.

gregknicholson 7y ago

Such as switching their browser to be based on Chromium, which is controlled by Google?