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I've tried all sort of diets, keto included, the best diet i found is to eat nutritious and balanced diet in moderate quantity (i.e change your relationship wit

I've tried all sort of diets, keto included, the best diet i found is to eat nutritious and balanced diet in moderate quantity (i.e change your relationship with food). Keto in my opinion is too extreme, and is mostly done by people with poor relationship towards food (myself included). This recent diet trend is mainly because modern society made eating a hobby and escape along with forcing most of humanity to live sedentary lives.

tracker1 7y ago
While I agree with you... Keto is best for people who are type 2 diabetic or borderline. And with that I would say Paleo + Keto macro profile. If you are closer to a healthy weight, then Paleo and good habits goes a long way. One Meal a Day also helps a lot simply because it's harder to overeat in a single meal. IMHO grains/refined carbs (bread/starch/pasta) etc should be limited to a couple meals a week... and refined sugars should be limited to one or two treats a month.
- strikelaserclaw 7y ago
  Yup, most of my gains have been realized with eating less. I drink a soylent for breakfast, eat like a super small salad for lunch (300 cal), and basically eat whatever i want for dinner in moderation. On the weekends, i try to keep this diet but i might fail, no harm done though. Never felt better. These days if i were to go an extreme route i'm rooting more for OMAD or IM than keto but again, it is hard to keep up extreme diets for most people, keeping it simple is really the way to go.
- officialchicken 7y ago
  >Keto is best for people who are type 2 diabetic or borderline Citation, please. Because as far as I am aware, it's not recommended in any medical journal.
  - tracker1 7y ago
    2019 Diabetes Association Guidelines were changed to add low-carb, which is the only diet of those recommended to have shown any benefit in a controlled study. Linking to one of the first search results below. I happen to follow low carb down under and a few other resources that tend to show more data, etc. US and EU healthcare guidelines are dragging, mostly out of funding sources (big agriculture companies) https://www.lchf-rd.com/2018/12/18/low-carb-diet-in-2019-american-diabetes-association-standards-of-care/ https://www.lchf-rd.com/2018/12/18/low-carb-diet-in-2019-ame...
P_I_Staker 7y ago
Is food as a hobby and an escape anything new? There have been feasts since the beginning of time. You can find plenty of stories of people enjoying making and eating food before the modern time. I do agree it's much more widespread now. Also, food has become extremely affordable. Totally agree about our sedentary lives though.
Matty1992 7y ago
100% agreed, the issue I have with Keto and other related fashionable diets is that for the majority of people who attempt they aren't necessary to what they are trying to achieve and like you say, born out of poor relationship to food and health. As someone who has also tried a lot of different diets and training plans to me the most sane approach to weight loss is still moderation with calorie/macro tracking which is far simpler to implement, not restrictive and personally, more enjoyable.
rorykoehler 7y ago
Every individual on the planet has a different optimal diet. Any generic advice is useless.

tracker1 7y ago

While I agree with you... Keto is best for people who are type 2 diabetic or borderline. And with that I would say Paleo + Keto macro profile. If you are closer to a healthy weight, then Paleo and good habits goes a long way. One Meal a Day also helps a lot simply because it's harder to overeat in a single meal. IMHO grains/refined carbs (bread/starch/pasta) etc should be limited to a couple meals a week... and refined sugars should be limited to one or two treats a month.

strikelaserclaw 7y ago
Yup, most of my gains have been realized with eating less. I drink a soylent for breakfast, eat like a super small salad for lunch (300 cal), and basically eat whatever i want for dinner in moderation. On the weekends, i try to keep this diet but i might fail, no harm done though. Never felt better. These days if i were to go an extreme route i'm rooting more for OMAD or IM than keto but again, it is hard to keep up extreme diets for most people, keeping it simple is really the way to go.
officialchicken 7y ago
>Keto is best for people who are type 2 diabetic or borderline Citation, please. Because as far as I am aware, it's not recommended in any medical journal.
- tracker1 7y ago
  2019 Diabetes Association Guidelines were changed to add low-carb, which is the only diet of those recommended to have shown any benefit in a controlled study. Linking to one of the first search results below. I happen to follow low carb down under and a few other resources that tend to show more data, etc. US and EU healthcare guidelines are dragging, mostly out of funding sources (big agriculture companies) https://www.lchf-rd.com/2018/12/18/low-carb-diet-in-2019-american-diabetes-association-standards-of-care/ https://www.lchf-rd.com/2018/12/18/low-carb-diet-in-2019-ame...

P_I_Staker 7y ago

Is food as a hobby and an escape anything new? There have been feasts since the beginning of time. You can find plenty of stories of people enjoying making and eating food before the modern time. I do agree it's much more widespread now. Also, food has become extremely affordable. Totally agree about our sedentary lives though.

Matty1992 7y ago

100% agreed, the issue I have with Keto and other related fashionable diets is that for the majority of people who attempt they aren't necessary to what they are trying to achieve and like you say, born out of poor relationship to food and health. As someone who has also tried a lot of different diets and training plans to me the most sane approach to weight loss is still moderation with calorie/macro tracking which is far simpler to implement, not restrictive and personally, more enjoyable.

rorykoehler 7y ago

Every individual on the planet has a different optimal diet. Any generic advice is useless.