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Not the OP, but obligatory and very relevant Popehat: Me: I don't want to take away dog owners' rights. But we need to do something about Rottweilers.

Not the OP, but obligatory and very relevant Popehat: Me: I don't want to take away dog owners' rights. But we need to do something about Rottweilers. You: So what do you propose? Me: I just think that there should be some sort of training or restrictions on owning an attack dog. You: Wait. What's an "attack dog?" Me: You know what I mean. Like military dogs. You: Huh? Rottweilers aren't military dogs. In fact "military dogs" isn't a thing. You mean like German Shepherds? Me: Don't be ridiculous. Nobody's trying to take away your German Shepherds. But civilians shouldn't own fighting dogs. You: I have no idea what dogs you're talking about now. Me: You're being both picky and obtuse. You know I mean hounds. You: What the fuck. Me: OK, maybe not actually ::air quotes:: hounds ::air quotes::. Maybe I have the terminology wrong. I'm not obsessed with vicious dogs like you. But we can identify kinds of dogs that civilians just don't need to own. You: Can we? From https://www.popehat.com/2015/12/07/talking-productively-about-guns/ https://www.popehat.com/2015/12/07/talking-productively-abou...

klyrs 7y ago
On one hand, large magazines are useful in a murderous rampage, especially in semi-autos. That's why they're banned in Canada. On the other hand, assault-styled weapons give kids that "video game feel" and there's a high incidence of their use in domestic terrorism. On another hand, dogs are living creatures, and it's not generally acceptable to throw them into a grinder. But popehat is written by lawyers who deliberately represent scum. False equivalence is their bread and butter
- silversconfused 7y ago
  > large magazines already illegal > video game feel Have you shot a gun in real life or in a game? There's no similarity. > Something about popehat Way to shoot the messenger and ignore the message...
Crosseye_Jack 7y ago
As someone who had a Rottweiler called Psycho (named after the nickname of a football player from the local team) as a child the most harm that dog would do to you was sit on you or lick you to death. (I have a vivid memory of lying on the carpet in the living room playing Mario on the NES on a Saturday morning and the dog coming over and falling asleep on me and I was pretty much stuck, but who cared I had Saturday morning Mario to play on the big TV in the living room.) We used to have a large front garden and a tiny back garden so as kids we would play in the front garden and obv play with the dog. I remember atleast 4 times the authorities of one form or another were sent out to pay us a visit simply because we were playing with such a vicious animal. As kids we were more of a threat to that dog than it was to us as we sit on the dogs back and get rides up and down the garden. He was an awesome dog :-) But in the UK we do have a few banned dog breeds - https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/banned-dogs https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/banned-dogs - but personally I believe it’s down to the treatment of the animal from a puppy that matters, a well cared for and socialised pit bull terriers can be a loving family dog. Though I can not say I’ve had any interaction with any of the other dogs on the banned breed list.
- thinkingemote 7y ago
  I thought that so called dangerous dogs were almost always safe in the family, but any danger came with encounters with outsiders like your out of state aunty brings her new three year old to visit and the kid pulls its tail.
  - Crosseye_Jack 7y ago
    We would always brings friends home as kids and as I would walk the dog and take it to the local park I would often let the dog off the lead and allow it to run in the dog park (around the age of 11 iirc was when I would take the dog out by myself) and personally never had any issues. Though that is just one story from one person on-line. Take it as you will. Esp compared to the horror stories you see in the news. I just personally believe that Rottweilers got a bad rap because a few people abused them because they were big dogs. EDIT: What I mean is as a kid I just treated him as my dog, just like anyone would treat their Labrador or Golders retriever. I didn’t think I needed to worry about warning friends or anything when they came over unexpected. So we never worried about the “aunt from out of state with her 3 year old pulling the tail” as kids as unknown kids would be over all the time anyway.

klyrs 7y ago

On one hand, large magazines are useful in a murderous rampage, especially in semi-autos. That's why they're banned in Canada. On the other hand, assault-styled weapons give kids that "video game feel" and there's a high incidence of their use in domestic terrorism. On another hand, dogs are living creatures, and it's not generally acceptable to throw them into a grinder. But popehat is written by lawyers who deliberately represent scum. False equivalence is their bread and butter

silversconfused 7y ago
> large magazines already illegal > video game feel Have you shot a gun in real life or in a game? There's no similarity. > Something about popehat Way to shoot the messenger and ignore the message...

Crosseye_Jack 7y ago

As someone who had a Rottweiler called Psycho (named after the nickname of a football player from the local team) as a child the most harm that dog would do to you was sit on you or lick you to death. (I have a vivid memory of lying on the carpet in the living room playing Mario on the NES on a Saturday morning and the dog coming over and falling asleep on me and I was pretty much stuck, but who cared I had Saturday morning Mario to play on the big TV in the living room.) We used to have a large front garden and a tiny back garden so as kids we would play in the front garden and obv play with the dog. I remember atleast 4 times the authorities of one form or another were sent out to pay us a visit simply because we were playing with such a vicious animal. As kids we were more of a threat to that dog than it was to us as we sit on the dogs back and get rides up and down the garden. He was an awesome dog :-) But in the UK we do have a few banned dog breeds - https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/banned-dogs https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/banned-dogs - but personally I believe it’s down to the treatment of the animal from a puppy that matters, a well cared for and socialised pit bull terriers can be a loving family dog. Though I can not say I’ve had any interaction with any of the other dogs on the banned breed list.

thinkingemote 7y ago
I thought that so called dangerous dogs were almost always safe in the family, but any danger came with encounters with outsiders like your out of state aunty brings her new three year old to visit and the kid pulls its tail.
- Crosseye_Jack 7y ago
  We would always brings friends home as kids and as I would walk the dog and take it to the local park I would often let the dog off the lead and allow it to run in the dog park (around the age of 11 iirc was when I would take the dog out by myself) and personally never had any issues. Though that is just one story from one person on-line. Take it as you will. Esp compared to the horror stories you see in the news. I just personally believe that Rottweilers got a bad rap because a few people abused them because they were big dogs. EDIT: What I mean is as a kid I just treated him as my dog, just like anyone would treat their Labrador or Golders retriever. I didn’t think I needed to worry about warning friends or anything when they came over unexpected. So we never worried about the “aunt from out of state with her 3 year old pulling the tail” as kids as unknown kids would be over all the time anyway.