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These would be great mental exercises for me to complete while I fill out paperwork, unlike the other millennials who are too afraid to step up to the plate (pr

These would be great mental exercises for me to complete while I fill out paperwork, unlike the other millennials who are too afraid to step up to the plate (printer?).

sandworm101 7y ago
>> unlike the other millennials who are too afraid A serious consideration for recruiters working for these agencies is that millennial truly fear the interview process. They believe that the NSA/CIA has their entire browsing history on file, that the interview process may see them confronted by some awful website they visited late one night in their teens. Or they fear any examination of their past may be shared with law enforcement. These are legitimate fears that recruiters must address. The reality is that such histories are not kept on file and/or are not part of the interview process. (Similarly, many people don't realize themselves illegal immigrants/dreamers until they try to enlist in the army.)
- nostalgk 7y ago
  I was joking about the assertion that millennials refuse to do paperwork, but you are absolutely correct. I currently work at a place that required a government background check due to exposure to confidential information, and even though I have done nothing to warrant anxiety surrounding this, I genuinely was a bit afraid. I have heard many of my peers (college aged students) agree that they would never apply to a three-letter agency because of the same fear. Having recruiters that further disparage the newer generations and grow increasingly out of touch is doing nothing to boost their numbers, at least in my field. Everyone I know who would be a best fit for their agency is a privacy geek who wants nothing to do with them. Outreach would be an incredibly lucrative opportunity for them to gain talent.
- csa 7y ago
  > They believe that the NSA/CIA has their entire browsing history on file, that the interview process may see them confronted by some awful website they visited late one night in their teens. Even if they had this information, the most likely strike would be if you lied about it rather than if you actually did it. They are fully aware of the range of behavior that humans are capable of, perhaps in a way that many 25 yos are not.
- Throwaway47467 7y ago
  > some awful website they visited late one night in their teens Are you thinking about websites like 8chan?
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  - whenchamenia 7y ago
    If 8chan, a clearnet site, is considered verboten, we are all a bit screwed.
- sterlind 7y ago
  Isn't metadata stored in bulk for domestic traffic, and then queried retroactively? Usually queries require a real warrant, but doesn't filling out an SF-86 constitute consent to query? If not, why? I am genuinely baffled why they wouldn't fire up XKeyscore to double-check the accuracy of the SSBIs.
- asdff 7y ago
  It's a known fact in the military if it ever comes out that you've smoked weed at any time in your life you will hit a firm ceiling on your career and never rank up, unless you run for POTUS it seems :). Can't imagine how much talent any federal employer passed up on just for their myopic stance on pot of all things.
  - sandworm101 7y ago
    Some military. Canadian armed forces are now allowed pot.
  - kryogen1c 7y ago
    > It's a known fact in the military if it ever comes out that you've smoked weed at any time in your life you will hit a firm ceiling on your career and never rank up I was in the US Navy for 10 years, and this 100% false. I don't know if this was just a setup for your punchline, but it is absurd. If you test positive on urinalysis, the navy has a 0 tolerance policy so you will be discharged. If it "comes out" that you smoked, almost no one cares.

These would be great mental exercises for me to complete while I fill out paperwork, unlike the other millennials who are too afraid to step up to the plate (printer?).

sandworm101 7y ago

>> unlike the other millennials who are too afraid A serious consideration for recruiters working for these agencies is that millennial truly fear the interview process. They believe that the NSA/CIA has their entire browsing history on file, that the interview process may see them confronted by some awful website they visited late one night in their teens. Or they fear any examination of their past may be shared with law enforcement. These are legitimate fears that recruiters must address. The reality is that such histories are not kept on file and/or are not part of the interview process. (Similarly, many people don't realize themselves illegal immigrants/dreamers until they try to enlist in the army.)

nostalgk 7y ago
I was joking about the assertion that millennials refuse to do paperwork, but you are absolutely correct. I currently work at a place that required a government background check due to exposure to confidential information, and even though I have done nothing to warrant anxiety surrounding this, I genuinely was a bit afraid. I have heard many of my peers (college aged students) agree that they would never apply to a three-letter agency because of the same fear. Having recruiters that further disparage the newer generations and grow increasingly out of touch is doing nothing to boost their numbers, at least in my field. Everyone I know who would be a best fit for their agency is a privacy geek who wants nothing to do with them. Outreach would be an incredibly lucrative opportunity for them to gain talent.
csa 7y ago
> They believe that the NSA/CIA has their entire browsing history on file, that the interview process may see them confronted by some awful website they visited late one night in their teens. Even if they had this information, the most likely strike would be if you lied about it rather than if you actually did it. They are fully aware of the range of behavior that humans are capable of, perhaps in a way that many 25 yos are not.
Throwaway47467 7y ago
> some awful website they visited late one night in their teens Are you thinking about websites like 8chan?
- deleted 7y ago
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- whenchamenia 7y ago
  If 8chan, a clearnet site, is considered verboten, we are all a bit screwed.
sterlind 7y ago
Isn't metadata stored in bulk for domestic traffic, and then queried retroactively? Usually queries require a real warrant, but doesn't filling out an SF-86 constitute consent to query? If not, why? I am genuinely baffled why they wouldn't fire up XKeyscore to double-check the accuracy of the SSBIs.
asdff 7y ago
It's a known fact in the military if it ever comes out that you've smoked weed at any time in your life you will hit a firm ceiling on your career and never rank up, unless you run for POTUS it seems :). Can't imagine how much talent any federal employer passed up on just for their myopic stance on pot of all things.
- sandworm101 7y ago
  Some military. Canadian armed forces are now allowed pot.
- kryogen1c 7y ago
  > It's a known fact in the military if it ever comes out that you've smoked weed at any time in your life you will hit a firm ceiling on your career and never rank up I was in the US Navy for 10 years, and this 100% false. I don't know if this was just a setup for your punchline, but it is absurd. If you test positive on urinalysis, the navy has a 0 tolerance policy so you will be discharged. If it "comes out" that you smoked, almost no one cares.