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"I hate soup" - OK "I hate muslims" - not OK glad I could help clear up these muddy waters we're in.

asdf21 7y ago
So we're not "allowed" to hate groups of people then? Please clear up whether it's "Ok" to hate the following groups, in your opinion: - I hate rapists. - I hate child pornographers. - I hate Scientologists. - I hate white people. - I hate Italians. - I hate businessmen. - I hate Monsanto. - I hate ISIS. - I hate Right-wingers. - I hate pedophiles. - I hate liberals. Please elucidate me on which of the above lines are "hate speech" and which are not, since you have this thing all figured out.
- sctb 7y ago
  Please stop the battle. If you can't comment without attacking other community members then don't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - asdf21 7y ago
    What part of my comment attacked anyone? Why is this disagreement a "battle"? I'll stop debating, if you want, but I find your framing to be a bit hyperbolic.
    - sctb 7y ago
      > ...since you have this thing all figured out. This is a personal attack. Further, you've put words in the other person's mouth and that's a battle thing not a discussion thing. It breaks this guideline: > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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- hedora 7y ago
  They are all hate speech, because the definition of hate speech does not distinguish between which groups are protected and which are not. If you yell that, and then attack a member of the relevant group, then you can and should be charged with a hate crime. The supreme court has ruled on this. It is not controversial.
  - asdf21 7y ago
    Sure, in the US. Most countries are not that liberal with their speech laws, though.
  - anon12345690 7y ago
    thats if they attack. were talking about speech.
anon12345690 7y ago
not ok because you say so? so what if someone says that?
rmtech 7y ago
"50% of Trump supporters are a basket of deplorables" - hate speech?

So we're not "allowed" to hate groups of people then? Please clear up whether it's "Ok" to hate the following groups, in your opinion: - I hate rapists. - I hate child pornographers. - I hate Scientologists. - I hate white people. - I hate Italians. - I hate businessmen. - I hate Monsanto. - I hate ISIS. - I hate Right-wingers. - I hate pedophiles. - I hate liberals. Please elucidate me on which of the above lines are "hate speech" and which are not, since you have this thing all figured out.

sctb 7y ago
Please stop the battle. If you can't comment without attacking other community members then don't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- asdf21 7y ago
  What part of my comment attacked anyone? Why is this disagreement a "battle"? I'll stop debating, if you want, but I find your framing to be a bit hyperbolic.
  - sctb 7y ago
    > ...since you have this thing all figured out. This is a personal attack. Further, you've put words in the other person's mouth and that's a battle thing not a discussion thing. It breaks this guideline: > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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hedora 7y ago
They are all hate speech, because the definition of hate speech does not distinguish between which groups are protected and which are not. If you yell that, and then attack a member of the relevant group, then you can and should be charged with a hate crime. The supreme court has ruled on this. It is not controversial.
- asdf21 7y ago
  Sure, in the US. Most countries are not that liberal with their speech laws, though.
- anon12345690 7y ago
  thats if they attack. were talking about speech.

anon12345690 7y ago

not ok because you say so? so what if someone says that?

rmtech 7y ago

"50% of Trump supporters are a basket of deplorables" - hate speech?