Who's we? I doubt many hackers will be starting new projects in Java in 20 years. Sure, there will be plenty of legacy code around, just as there's plenty of CO

Who's we? I doubt many hackers will be starting new projects in Java in 20 years. Sure, there will be plenty of legacy code around, just as there's plenty of COBOL around now. I think Java's influence on Clojure is fairly small, and mostly visible around the places where the Clojure has to interoperate with Java libraries. I'm not sure what to call this - incidental influence, maybe?