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Bankruptcy is a hell of a thing. Radioshack sold off consumer information when they went bankrupt, even though that was against what customers agreed to. It wo

Bankruptcy is a hell of a thing. Radioshack sold off consumer information when they went bankrupt, even though that was against what customers agreed to. It wouldn't be a surprise of Google was able to do the same. https://www.pcworld.com/article/2901028/radioshack-puts-customers-personal-data-up-for-sale-in-bankruptcy-auction.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/2901028/radioshack-puts-cust...

Causality1 7y ago
Secure destruction of customer data in the event of bankruptcy is one of the many things we need in a digital rights package.
- ekianjo 7y ago
  Customer data is actually an asset so it is worth money. Would be destroying value if it worked this way.
  - icebraining 7y ago
    So what?
- Someone 7y ago
  So, Foo stores your backups, but goes bankrupt. Bar takes over the remaining business, deletes your backups first, and then sends you a new contract? It’s not that they have the data, it’s that they split it from the associated contract. Bankruptcy has little to do with this. It could also happen when Foo stayed in business, or when Bar took over or merged with Foo, without it going bankrupt in-between. The only difference is that, with bankruptcy, there may be a third party that’s guilty of splitting the data from its contract. If Foo is bankrupt, it doesn’t exist anymore, and Bar may buy the data separate from its contract in good faith.
- mgkimsal 7y ago
  i may not want my data destroyed. and why bankruptcy? why not just change of status? company is sold, or goes public, or goes private, or just changes from llc to c corp, or CEO changes? there's far more things that can happen to a company besides bankruptcy which would cause me to want my relationship and data with the company to terminate.
nerdponx 7y ago
File under "things that would be illegal if American legislators had any moral integrity".
- jjeaff 7y ago
  It is illegal. It breaks the contract. But what the you going to do? Fine radio shack?
  - cdmckay 7y ago
    Fine the company that purchased it if they use the data in violation of existing contracts.
    - ekianjo 7y ago
      Good luck proving that without insider information.
    - taneq 7y ago
      Companies can purchase assets off other companies (up to and including the company name and trademarks etc.) without taking on the legal obligations of those companies. It's crappy but true. (I had a shower re-sealed by a company that gave a 5-year guarantee. Four years later it was leaking again, and I got in touch with them to have it redone under warranty. After stonewalling me for weeks, they finally came back with "we purchased this company off its original owner but didn't take on any of their obligations so you have to find the original owner and get them to repair your shower", and as far as I could tell that's actually a thing you can do.)
      - MRD85 7y ago
        How is that shower legal in any sense? The "company" which did the work no longer gives a guarantee?
        TheGrumpyBrit 7y ago

Causality1 7y ago

Secure destruction of customer data in the event of bankruptcy is one of the many things we need in a digital rights package.

ekianjo 7y ago
Customer data is actually an asset so it is worth money. Would be destroying value if it worked this way.
- icebraining 7y ago
  So what?
Someone 7y ago
So, Foo stores your backups, but goes bankrupt. Bar takes over the remaining business, deletes your backups first, and then sends you a new contract? It’s not that they have the data, it’s that they split it from the associated contract. Bankruptcy has little to do with this. It could also happen when Foo stayed in business, or when Bar took over or merged with Foo, without it going bankrupt in-between. The only difference is that, with bankruptcy, there may be a third party that’s guilty of splitting the data from its contract. If Foo is bankrupt, it doesn’t exist anymore, and Bar may buy the data separate from its contract in good faith.
mgkimsal 7y ago
i may not want my data destroyed. and why bankruptcy? why not just change of status? company is sold, or goes public, or goes private, or just changes from llc to c corp, or CEO changes? there's far more things that can happen to a company besides bankruptcy which would cause me to want my relationship and data with the company to terminate.

nerdponx 7y ago

File under "things that would be illegal if American legislators had any moral integrity".

jjeaff 7y ago
It is illegal. It breaks the contract. But what the you going to do? Fine radio shack?
- cdmckay 7y ago
  Fine the company that purchased it if they use the data in violation of existing contracts.
  - ekianjo 7y ago
    Good luck proving that without insider information.
  - taneq 7y ago
    Companies can purchase assets off other companies (up to and including the company name and trademarks etc.) without taking on the legal obligations of those companies. It's crappy but true. (I had a shower re-sealed by a company that gave a 5-year guarantee. Four years later it was leaking again, and I got in touch with them to have it redone under warranty. After stonewalling me for weeks, they finally came back with "we purchased this company off its original owner but didn't take on any of their obligations so you have to find the original owner and get them to repair your shower", and as far as I could tell that's actually a thing you can do.)
    - MRD85 7y ago
      How is that shower legal in any sense? The "company" which did the work no longer gives a guarantee?
      - TheGrumpyBrit 7y ago