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I ditched Chrome and came back to Firefox, next step is to donate to Mozilla.

by m-p-3 7y ago

kibwen 7y ago
Note that charitable donations (of the 501(c)(3) variety) in the U.S. can only be employed for a very specific whitelist of purposes, and software development and marketing are not among those (the Mozilla Foundation uses donations to fund things like education programs instead). If you're a software developer who's interested in the health of Firefox specifically, consider instead donating your time by volunteering (not limited merely to Mozilla or Firefox; there are dozens of open-source projects whose development directly or indirectly ends up benefiting Firefox).
- chris_wot 7y ago
  The Mozilla Foundation's education programs and the dozens of other things they do are actually worthwhile enough to justify donations, IMO.
- zombieprocess 7y ago
  Is there a good starting point for this? Or like a "Getting started" page?
- pabs3 7y ago
  I'm told that this is incorrect and that the FSF has been doing it for 34 years, the EFF does it, the ACLU has done it and others have even paid for proprietary software development (their apps etc).
steve76 7y ago
I'm willing to stay if we can get something mutual. Mineral rights payouts, or an end to Adsense bans. Open source the platform behind their entire revenue. What? They scared or something? I know they have investors, and research into new medicine and energy depend on consumer driven revenue. Instead of: "In the long run, we are all dead." I see it as: "Until further notice, unless someone gets really really good at math, we are going to die in horrible horrible agony. Loosing all your wealth is the last of your concerns." Burn the boats. Get that hunger back.
chris_wot 7y ago
Yep, I'm about to ditch Chrome altogether now. I gritted my teeth and just handled a few of the more bone-headed changes the Chrome team made, but this latest change is a deal breaker. The truth is, I actually don't need Chrome for anything. Firefox is faster now, gives me more freedom and has less corporate affiliations. I'll stick with Mozilla.
- deleted 7y ago
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- feanaro 7y ago
  Out of curiosity, what would you say was the thing that still kept you on Chrome even though all of the things you said apply? Inertia due to habit?
  - Myrmornis 7y ago
    profiles
    - heinrich5991 7y ago
      You can try Firefox containers. They even work within the same window.
      - Myrmornis 7y ago
        No. This is a misconception that is being spread around. I don't know what FF containers are useful for, but they certainly do not function to replace Chrome's profiles: Here are my notes from when I investigated: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15688651 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15688651 I went deeply into trying to use containers as a profile replacement, replacing Chrome with the new Firefox beta for one month, and I can report that it is not the right direction to go in: - New tabs do not inherit current container - No way to make Ctrl-T do this by customization (I investigated extensions (can't remap Ctrl-T) and even system-wide Ctrl-T remapping with Karibiner; neither gives you what you want) - History is shared across containers. So e.g. work URLs mixed up with personal. That's contra to one of the main purposes of Profiles. - External applications do not open a tab in the current container. So e.g. clicking in a link in work slack will fail because it will not open in a tab which has work cookies / google account etc. Evidently Containers are not designed as a Profile replacement. I'm not sure what they are for but I don't think it's a need that I have. As I understand it using the long-standing Firefox profiles feature is the way to go, but personally I switched back to Chrome after a month of the new Firefox Beta because of the convenience of Chrome profiles. I should try Firefox profiles, but I exhausted my experimentation energy on Containers.

I ditched Chrome and came back to Firefox, next step is to donate to Mozilla.

by m-p-3 7y ago

I ditched Chrome and came back to Firefox, next step is to donate to Mozilla.

Note that charitable donations (of the 501(c)(3) variety) in the U.S. can only be employed for a very specific whitelist of purposes, and software development and marketing are not among those (the Mozilla Foundation uses donations to fund things like education programs instead). If you're a software developer who's interested in the health of Firefox specifically, consider instead donating your time by volunteering (not limited merely to Mozilla or Firefox; there are dozens of open-source projects whose development directly or indirectly ends up benefiting Firefox).

chris_wot 7y ago
The Mozilla Foundation's education programs and the dozens of other things they do are actually worthwhile enough to justify donations, IMO.
zombieprocess 7y ago
Is there a good starting point for this? Or like a "Getting started" page?
pabs3 7y ago
I'm told that this is incorrect and that the FSF has been doing it for 34 years, the EFF does it, the ACLU has done it and others have even paid for proprietary software development (their apps etc).

steve76 7y ago

I'm willing to stay if we can get something mutual. Mineral rights payouts, or an end to Adsense bans. Open source the platform behind their entire revenue. What? They scared or something? I know they have investors, and research into new medicine and energy depend on consumer driven revenue. Instead of: "In the long run, we are all dead." I see it as: "Until further notice, unless someone gets really really good at math, we are going to die in horrible horrible agony. Loosing all your wealth is the last of your concerns." Burn the boats. Get that hunger back.

chris_wot 7y ago

Yep, I'm about to ditch Chrome altogether now. I gritted my teeth and just handled a few of the more bone-headed changes the Chrome team made, but this latest change is a deal breaker. The truth is, I actually don't need Chrome for anything. Firefox is faster now, gives me more freedom and has less corporate affiliations. I'll stick with Mozilla.

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feanaro 7y ago
Out of curiosity, what would you say was the thing that still kept you on Chrome even though all of the things you said apply? Inertia due to habit?
- Myrmornis 7y ago
  profiles
  - heinrich5991 7y ago
    You can try Firefox containers. They even work within the same window.
    - Myrmornis 7y ago
      No. This is a misconception that is being spread around. I don't know what FF containers are useful for, but they certainly do not function to replace Chrome's profiles: Here are my notes from when I investigated: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15688651 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15688651 I went deeply into trying to use containers as a profile replacement, replacing Chrome with the new Firefox beta for one month, and I can report that it is not the right direction to go in: - New tabs do not inherit current container - No way to make Ctrl-T do this by customization (I investigated extensions (can't remap Ctrl-T) and even system-wide Ctrl-T remapping with Karibiner; neither gives you what you want) - History is shared across containers. So e.g. work URLs mixed up with personal. That's contra to one of the main purposes of Profiles. - External applications do not open a tab in the current container. So e.g. clicking in a link in work slack will fail because it will not open in a tab which has work cookies / google account etc. Evidently Containers are not designed as a Profile replacement. I'm not sure what they are for but I don't think it's a need that I have. As I understand it using the long-standing Firefox profiles feature is the way to go, but personally I switched back to Chrome after a month of the new Firefox Beta because of the convenience of Chrome profiles. I should try Firefox profiles, but I exhausted my experimentation energy on Containers.