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I thought they had them hashed and salted, but the crackers are using rainbow tables and brute force to crack them?
by swombat 16y ago
I thought they had them hashed and salted, but the crackers are using rainbow tables and brute force to crack them?
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- gthank 16y agoNo, they weren't. According to the "Release Notes", they were using a DES-based crypt scheme. Read up on tptacek's (http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=tptacek http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=tptacek) comments on the matter.
- pietrofmaggi 16y agoYes, as you told, I was writing from my memory and I remembered having read DES encryption with password in source somewhere. But It seems it was a DES based hashing: http://www.duosecurity.com/blog/entry/brief_analysis_of_the_gawker_password_dump http://www.duosecurity.com/blog/entry/brief_analysis_of_the_... [edit] deleted the parent post because I could not find the article I remembered (which was probably wrong anyways).
- tedunangst 16y agoDo you have a reference for that? Everything I've read (not really authoritative) indicated they were using the standard crypt interface, which does use DES, but is a lot closer to salted hash then encrypted. I can see the issue getting confused either way (people see DES, don't know what to think), but using crypt seems a lot more likely.
- Xk 16y agoBrute force? Yes. Rainbow tables? No. That's the purpose of a salt. The table needs to be several orders of magnitude bigger.