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I always thought that the liberal arts majors subsidized the more expensive STEM majors, but your comment made me question that. So I took a look at my Alma Mat

by Mvhsz 7y ago

I always thought that the liberal arts majors subsidized the more expensive STEM majors, but your comment made me question that. So I took a look at my Alma Mater's financial statements and it turns out that the subsidy is less that I thought, but still significant. Facilities are a pretty small part of the university budget, dorms turn enough profit to cover utilities and maintenance. Most of the upfront cost of academic buildings is paid for by donors (may not be the case everywhere). 60% of the University expenses are salaries and about 20% of the staff are faculty. However the majority of the employees work in revenue-generating parts of the university. Room and board mostly covers the salaries for low-wage positions like food service, security, building maintenance. Athletic revenue mostly covers the cost of coaches and athletic staff. So the remaining number of non-revenue generating administrators (bursar, registrar, etc.) is about equal to the number of faculty. Since STEM faculty are generally paid more that liberal arts, I would estimate the cost premium of operating a STEM class over a liberal arts class to 10% at this particular school (NE USA, Private, D1).

roymurdock 7y ago
It sounds like you basically dropped all other costs but teacher salary and found STEM professor salaries to be 10% higher (Facilities dropped, same cost per student on dorms + maintenance, building capex dropped) You really need to do a per-student cost analysis - e.g. if there are 500 STEM graduates and 2000 liberal arts, the costs are not evenly spread across the non-academic staff, and you need to account for the separate facility costs (e.g. a computer/science lab is much more expensive to maintain and stock than an english classroom) And There are also lots of intangibles to factor in - -How many of the alumni contributing to the endowment and paying for academic buildings are STEM vs. liberal arts graduates -How do graduation rates and job outcomes differ between STEM vs. liberal arts, and affect the college's KPIs (e.g. 95% graduate on time and 80% get a job within 6 months making a median $70k, for marketing) Also presumably your school has an endowment and investment managers, which is the largest source of revenue for top tier schools (Yale's endowment of $27.2B returned 12.3% in 2018, the school spent $1.4B of that return on operating costs making up 34% of the university's net revenues [0]) So really in the grand scheme of things, most major universities are safe investment vehicles that are (1) extremely marketable to wealthy alumni (2) have great information networks and (3) generally enjoy major appreciation on their real estate value, making the comparison of STEM vs. liberal arts salaries pretty negligible [0] https://news.yale.edu/2018/10/01/investment-return-123-brings-yale-endowment-value-294-billion https://news.yale.edu/2018/10/01/investment-return-123-bring...

by Mvhsz 7y ago

roymurdock 7y ago

It sounds like you basically dropped all other costs but teacher salary and found STEM professor salaries to be 10% higher (Facilities dropped, same cost per student on dorms + maintenance, building capex dropped) You really need to do a per-student cost analysis - e.g. if there are 500 STEM graduates and 2000 liberal arts, the costs are not evenly spread across the non-academic staff, and you need to account for the separate facility costs (e.g. a computer/science lab is much more expensive to maintain and stock than an english classroom) And There are also lots of intangibles to factor in - -How many of the alumni contributing to the endowment and paying for academic buildings are STEM vs. liberal arts graduates -How do graduation rates and job outcomes differ between STEM vs. liberal arts, and affect the college's KPIs (e.g. 95% graduate on time and 80% get a job within 6 months making a median $70k, for marketing) Also presumably your school has an endowment and investment managers, which is the largest source of revenue for top tier schools (Yale's endowment of $27.2B returned 12.3% in 2018, the school spent $1.4B of that return on operating costs making up 34% of the university's net revenues [0]) So really in the grand scheme of things, most major universities are safe investment vehicles that are (1) extremely marketable to wealthy alumni (2) have great information networks and (3) generally enjoy major appreciation on their real estate value, making the comparison of STEM vs. liberal arts salaries pretty negligible [0] https://news.yale.edu/2018/10/01/investment-return-123-brings-yale-endowment-value-294-billion https://news.yale.edu/2018/10/01/investment-return-123-bring...