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But then you’re eating... packaged frozen meals. Most of those are full of salt and preservatives, taste terrible, and are just generally bad. Maybe you have fo

by orev 7y ago

But then you’re eating... packaged frozen meals. Most of those are full of salt and preservatives, taste terrible, and are just generally bad. Maybe you have found a magical source of fresh, healthy, good tasting frozen meals, but that absolutely does not exist in most of the US. I think it can be assumed that discussions about wholesome food excludes fast food by default.

kthejoker2 7y ago
No, the discussion is about food, not wholesome food. And the argument is around saving time not nutritional value.
- orev 7y ago
  No. The OP posted a list of items, all of which need to be taken as a whole for a complete argument. The CP cherry picked one item to skew the discussion to their argument. If we’re talking only about speed, then why not always eat McDonalds? Or Soylent? Clearly it’s because there are other facets of the point being made other than speed alone.
  - RealityVoid 7y ago
    Of course, but then touting speed as one of the advantages is a lie. Even if fresh food is overall better, in the particular aspect of speed, it's worse. That is not cherry picking, it's attacking one of the arguments that rings false.
rayiner 7y ago
What the hell is “wholesome” food? Seriously, it’s a scientifically empty term.
- hombre_fatal 7y ago
  > wholesome | ˈhōlsəm | adjective: conducive to or suggestive of good health and physical well-being: the food is plentiful and very wholesome. Doesn't need to appear in a peer reviewed journal to know what they mean.
  - rayiner 7y ago
    In scientific terms (the only terms that matter) identify what makes food “wholesome” and quantify the health effects. For example, if I stop eating preservatives, how much longer can I expect to live, in years?
turk73 7y ago
You don't have any kids, do you? There just isn't time to make meals from scratch every night. We do make large dishes and eat leftovers, but when things get out of hand, you have to have a plan. Restaurants aren't the plan.
pentae 7y ago
Please stay on topic, the point was regarding time, not quality.

by orev 7y ago

kthejoker2 7y ago

No, the discussion is about food, not wholesome food. And the argument is around saving time not nutritional value.

orev 7y ago
No. The OP posted a list of items, all of which need to be taken as a whole for a complete argument. The CP cherry picked one item to skew the discussion to their argument. If we’re talking only about speed, then why not always eat McDonalds? Or Soylent? Clearly it’s because there are other facets of the point being made other than speed alone.
- RealityVoid 7y ago
  Of course, but then touting speed as one of the advantages is a lie. Even if fresh food is overall better, in the particular aspect of speed, it's worse. That is not cherry picking, it's attacking one of the arguments that rings false.

rayiner 7y ago

What the hell is “wholesome” food? Seriously, it’s a scientifically empty term.

hombre_fatal 7y ago
> wholesome | ˈhōlsəm | adjective: conducive to or suggestive of good health and physical well-being: the food is plentiful and very wholesome. Doesn't need to appear in a peer reviewed journal to know what they mean.
- rayiner 7y ago
  In scientific terms (the only terms that matter) identify what makes food “wholesome” and quantify the health effects. For example, if I stop eating preservatives, how much longer can I expect to live, in years?

turk73 7y ago

You don't have any kids, do you? There just isn't time to make meals from scratch every night. We do make large dishes and eat leftovers, but when things get out of hand, you have to have a plan. Restaurants aren't the plan.

pentae 7y ago

Please stay on topic, the point was regarding time, not quality.