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My favourite quote from that article is the following one: Update: more from Buchheit in the FriendFeed thread: ChromeOS has no purpose that isn’t bet

by trezor 16y ago

My favourite quote from that article is the following one: Update: more from Buchheit in the FriendFeed thread: ChromeOS has no purpose that isn’t better served by Android (perhaps with a few mods to support a non-touch display). I was thinking, “is this too obvious to even state?”, but then I see people taking ChromeOS seriously, and Google is even shipping devices for some reason. I fully agree with this one, and honestly don't understand the rage around Chrome OS. OK, so it's from Google, but it's still merely a crippled Linux-distro where you don't get to touch the local filesystem. I doubt it will stay around for long.

axod 16y ago
It still makes an absolute ton of sense for people who only use the web. The browser on android is OK, but it's nowhere near Chrome afaics. I believe ChromeOS is going after the non-techy market of people who don't care about all the bells and whistles of android. I think both could still be successful.
- statictype 16y ago
  It still makes an absolute ton of sense for people who only use the web. How many people do you know who only use the web?
  - nuclear_eclipse 16y ago
    My wife, my parents, and other random family members....
  - bockris 16y ago
    My parents, my in-laws, and to some degree my wife and kids. I was lucky enough to receive a Cr-48 and it's been in constant use for the small time we've had it. Some of that is the 'new' factor but my wife has a regular laptop that she uses on the couch occasionally. Now she asks "Where is the Google laptop?" It is partially form factor but the boot/wakeup speed is addicting. Also the fast user switching makes it very easy to trade around. Last night I was using it for Google reader and my wife asked when she could use it. I was just messing around so I closed the lid and handed it to her. She lifted the lid, it was on instantly, she signed me out and signed herself in and was reading her mail in probably about 10 seconds. Even with the problems with the trackpad and the stuttering flash I can see the potential. I would buy at least 2 Cr-48's today if they were for sale. Another one for my family to share and the other for my parents. I would set up a gmail account for my parents and ship it to them and be safe in the knowledge that I would only be doing application support for them, not system support.
    - trezor 16y ago
      > My parents, my in-laws, and to some degree my wife and kids. Until they want to play some music not on youtube, dig up some pictures they didn't upload to facebook etc etc. Or just actually do a slideshow of pictures, since most web-pages don't really allow you to do slideshows. There's a ton of use-cases I see most people do all the time which a no-local-storage platform will simply not support. > She lifted the lid, it was on instantly, she signed me out and signed herself in and was reading her mail in probably about 10 seconds. I fail to see how this is different from any other laptop on the planet. I have a regular Windows laptop and this has always been my experience. Heck, switching from my GFs account to mine I can be on in about 5 seconds. A cold boot however will take me 10. SSDs are pretty cool that way. Regardless. Back to the topic: I also fail to see how any of this relates to a platform being locked down to not allow local applications. Just where does the Linux-lockdown start providing real, actual benefits you don't get elsewhere? I'm not saying you must be wrong or mistaken, but what I do suggest is that there are normal use-cases which will benefit from having local-storage and applications and that I see absolutely no use-cases where having the local option completely blocked and removed provides any benefits. Your "google laptop" is my Windows-laptop. Amputated. Without any benefits added what so ever.
      - bockris 16y ago
        We agree to disagree. I don't see any of these things as issues for my use case. My parents don't have a computer now. They don't want to listen to music and they mostly want to consume pictures of their grandkids which we would email to them or post to Picasa. The video chat through google talk is icing on the cake. I can't get rid of my 'real' laptop because I need to interface with other hardware like my Arduino, etc. But for emailing and reading my news feed I like the Cr-48. Would the same purpose be served by a different netbook? Probably but I don't have one of those to compare to. And my experience with fast user switching on windows is totally different from yours. Maybe it's the age of the laptop and not having an SSD but it's not even something I consider doing it's so slow. When my kids want to check their email, we fire up an incognito session on chrome on the existing windows session. Again, probably to do with my hardware.
  - andywood 16y ago
    Chrome is literally the only app I ever run on my MacBook. I do everything else on my desktop. So it's not that I only use the web, but that I only use the web on that particular device.
  - axod 16y ago
    If I wasn't a programmer, I'd only use the web.
spot 16y ago
"merely a crippled Linux-distro". i am sorry you have been misinformed. please check out its security model.

by trezor 16y ago

axod 16y ago

It still makes an absolute ton of sense for people who only use the web. The browser on android is OK, but it's nowhere near Chrome afaics. I believe ChromeOS is going after the non-techy market of people who don't care about all the bells and whistles of android. I think both could still be successful.

statictype 16y ago
It still makes an absolute ton of sense for people who only use the web. How many people do you know who only use the web?
- nuclear_eclipse 16y ago
  My wife, my parents, and other random family members....
- bockris 16y ago
  My parents, my in-laws, and to some degree my wife and kids. I was lucky enough to receive a Cr-48 and it's been in constant use for the small time we've had it. Some of that is the 'new' factor but my wife has a regular laptop that she uses on the couch occasionally. Now she asks "Where is the Google laptop?" It is partially form factor but the boot/wakeup speed is addicting. Also the fast user switching makes it very easy to trade around. Last night I was using it for Google reader and my wife asked when she could use it. I was just messing around so I closed the lid and handed it to her. She lifted the lid, it was on instantly, she signed me out and signed herself in and was reading her mail in probably about 10 seconds. Even with the problems with the trackpad and the stuttering flash I can see the potential. I would buy at least 2 Cr-48's today if they were for sale. Another one for my family to share and the other for my parents. I would set up a gmail account for my parents and ship it to them and be safe in the knowledge that I would only be doing application support for them, not system support.
  - trezor 16y ago
    > My parents, my in-laws, and to some degree my wife and kids. Until they want to play some music not on youtube, dig up some pictures they didn't upload to facebook etc etc. Or just actually do a slideshow of pictures, since most web-pages don't really allow you to do slideshows. There's a ton of use-cases I see most people do all the time which a no-local-storage platform will simply not support. > She lifted the lid, it was on instantly, she signed me out and signed herself in and was reading her mail in probably about 10 seconds. I fail to see how this is different from any other laptop on the planet. I have a regular Windows laptop and this has always been my experience. Heck, switching from my GFs account to mine I can be on in about 5 seconds. A cold boot however will take me 10. SSDs are pretty cool that way. Regardless. Back to the topic: I also fail to see how any of this relates to a platform being locked down to not allow local applications. Just where does the Linux-lockdown start providing real, actual benefits you don't get elsewhere? I'm not saying you must be wrong or mistaken, but what I do suggest is that there are normal use-cases which will benefit from having local-storage and applications and that I see absolutely no use-cases where having the local option completely blocked and removed provides any benefits. Your "google laptop" is my Windows-laptop. Amputated. Without any benefits added what so ever.
    - bockris 16y ago
      We agree to disagree. I don't see any of these things as issues for my use case. My parents don't have a computer now. They don't want to listen to music and they mostly want to consume pictures of their grandkids which we would email to them or post to Picasa. The video chat through google talk is icing on the cake. I can't get rid of my 'real' laptop because I need to interface with other hardware like my Arduino, etc. But for emailing and reading my news feed I like the Cr-48. Would the same purpose be served by a different netbook? Probably but I don't have one of those to compare to. And my experience with fast user switching on windows is totally different from yours. Maybe it's the age of the laptop and not having an SSD but it's not even something I consider doing it's so slow. When my kids want to check their email, we fire up an incognito session on chrome on the existing windows session. Again, probably to do with my hardware.
- andywood 16y ago
  Chrome is literally the only app I ever run on my MacBook. I do everything else on my desktop. So it's not that I only use the web, but that I only use the web on that particular device.
- axod 16y ago
  If I wasn't a programmer, I'd only use the web.

spot 16y ago

"merely a crippled Linux-distro". i am sorry you have been misinformed. please check out its security model.