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> The police are not your friends As a Canadian, I disagree with this sentiment.

by acchow 7y ago

jammygit 7y ago
As a Canadian, I think the police are pretty neutral. They aren’t your friends or enemies. I once received death threats that they did not help me with until after I got attacked at work. They neither prey upon you nor help you.
- bregma 7y ago
  This. We decided collectively it's a good idea to have police. If you find yourself in a situation involving police, things have already gone wrong and it's generally not their fault. There are unfortunately situations in which "already gone wrong" may include your genetics at conception. As a society we acknowledge that is not a valid criteria for police intervention, but we're still working on some of the implementation details.
- TelmoMenezes 7y ago
  > We decided collectively Who is "we"? I know it doesn't include me, because I was never consulted on the matter.
x38iq84n 7y ago
-Do you break the laws? -No! -How many laws and regulations are there currently to follow? -??? -Then how can you be sure you follow them all? The police are not your friends and unsolicited interaction with the Police can only harm you, not help. Their priority is not to help or protect anyone but the government system.
lreeves 7y ago
Wow, I couldn't disagree more. I've watched police in Toronto: * Gleefully wear masks and remove their name tags during the G20 summit and harass me for daring to work on a Saturday - friends of mine were arrested for being in the area and kept in cages (later there was a large lawsuit involved). * They've happily accepted carding minorities in this city for a decade, ignored the cries of a community where a serial killer (Bruce McArthur) was preying on them and in fact had him in custody but let him go. * Persecuted the LGBTQ community for decades with bathhouse and related arrests And on a personal note the several times I've needed their assistance they have gone out of their way to victim-shame and victim-blame me. I was assaulted and robbed and the police on the phone laughed out loud at me asking if I should go in to a station or come to me. This is just the recent-most experience, my entire 20 years of adult life in Ontario has been peppered by experiences like this. And full disclosure I'm a white straight male, I cannot imagine what it would be like to be an underrepresented group dealing with the police. So TLDR they are 100% neutral. I'm not sure after all these years what their actual guiding mission or statement is but it sure fucking isn't protecting and serving and I would never speak to them or open my door to them without a warrant and a call to a lawyer.

> The police are not your friends As a Canadian, I disagree with this sentiment.

by acchow 7y ago

> The police are not your friends As a Canadian, I disagree with this sentiment.

As a Canadian, I think the police are pretty neutral. They aren’t your friends or enemies. I once received death threats that they did not help me with until after I got attacked at work. They neither prey upon you nor help you.

bregma 7y ago
This. We decided collectively it's a good idea to have police. If you find yourself in a situation involving police, things have already gone wrong and it's generally not their fault. There are unfortunately situations in which "already gone wrong" may include your genetics at conception. As a society we acknowledge that is not a valid criteria for police intervention, but we're still working on some of the implementation details.
TelmoMenezes 7y ago
> We decided collectively Who is "we"? I know it doesn't include me, because I was never consulted on the matter.

x38iq84n 7y ago

-Do you break the laws? -No! -How many laws and regulations are there currently to follow? -??? -Then how can you be sure you follow them all? The police are not your friends and unsolicited interaction with the Police can only harm you, not help. Their priority is not to help or protect anyone but the government system.

lreeves 7y ago

Wow, I couldn't disagree more. I've watched police in Toronto: * Gleefully wear masks and remove their name tags during the G20 summit and harass me for daring to work on a Saturday - friends of mine were arrested for being in the area and kept in cages (later there was a large lawsuit involved). * They've happily accepted carding minorities in this city for a decade, ignored the cries of a community where a serial killer (Bruce McArthur) was preying on them and in fact had him in custody but let him go. * Persecuted the LGBTQ community for decades with bathhouse and related arrests And on a personal note the several times I've needed their assistance they have gone out of their way to victim-shame and victim-blame me. I was assaulted and robbed and the police on the phone laughed out loud at me asking if I should go in to a station or come to me. This is just the recent-most experience, my entire 20 years of adult life in Ontario has been peppered by experiences like this. And full disclosure I'm a white straight male, I cannot imagine what it would be like to be an underrepresented group dealing with the police. So TLDR they are 100% neutral. I'm not sure after all these years what their actual guiding mission or statement is but it sure fucking isn't protecting and serving and I would never speak to them or open my door to them without a warrant and a call to a lawyer.