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Can you really? The article seems relatively clear that there are some problems regarding consent in this whole apparatus. I'm torn on the article. The Canadia

Can you really? The article seems relatively clear that there are some problems regarding consent in this whole apparatus. I'm torn on the article. The Canadian government isn't China and we have had quite a few pretty public cases here in Germany where lack of inter-agency coordination led to serious harm in the context of our CPS equivalent. OTOH, at least from that article, this program doesn't seem to get the oversight required for such a task. At any rate, the lack of transparency and contractually forbidding people from talking about the program is a weird and all to common move these days.

jdc 7y ago
> Can you really? In my experience with the RCMP at least, yes. They might give you attitude about it, though. I have received a veiled threat or two though (which materialized to nothing).
- sgift 7y ago
  What is "received a veiled threat"?
  - jdc 7y ago
    Whoops, meant vague threat. Was "we can do this the easy way or the hard way."
cperciva 7y ago
Yes you can. This program is being driven by a desire to identify potential future victims of crime, not a desire to identify future criminals.
- tastroder 7y ago
  That makes sense I guess, thanks!
- kstenerud 7y ago
  "Information about people believed to be “at risk” of becoming criminals or victims of harm is shared between civilian agencies and police and is added to the database when a person is being evaluated for a rapid intervention intended to lower their risk levels. Interventions can range from a door knock and a chat to forced hospitalization or arrest."
- icebraining 7y ago
  The intent behind the people setting up the program is besides the point; if the actual cops think your behavior is suspicious, are they prevented from investigating? If not, then the increased interaction caused by this program can very well lead to more situations wherein you aren't free to say no.

jdc 7y ago

> Can you really? In my experience with the RCMP at least, yes. They might give you attitude about it, though. I have received a veiled threat or two though (which materialized to nothing).

sgift 7y ago
What is "received a veiled threat"?
- jdc 7y ago
  Whoops, meant vague threat. Was "we can do this the easy way or the hard way."

cperciva 7y ago

Yes you can. This program is being driven by a desire to identify potential future victims of crime, not a desire to identify future criminals.

tastroder 7y ago
That makes sense I guess, thanks!
kstenerud 7y ago
"Information about people believed to be “at risk” of becoming criminals or victims of harm is shared between civilian agencies and police and is added to the database when a person is being evaluated for a rapid intervention intended to lower their risk levels. Interventions can range from a door knock and a chat to forced hospitalization or arrest."
icebraining 7y ago
The intent behind the people setting up the program is besides the point; if the actual cops think your behavior is suspicious, are they prevented from investigating? If not, then the increased interaction caused by this program can very well lead to more situations wherein you aren't free to say no.