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Pretty sure Alpha zero would destroy Leela.
by mda 7y ago
Pretty sure Alpha zero would destroy Leela.
- mitchellgoffpc 7y agoMaybe so, but Deepmind isn’t training AlphaZero chess any further! Leela will hopefully just keep on getting better and better :)
- mda 7y agoEh, If they want, they can train Alpha zero in one day Leela can be trained in 10 years. In any case indeed Leela's progress is impressive.
- mot524 7y agoTraining AlphaZero for more than 4 hours on DeepMind's system didn't improve its strength. Makes you wonder if that's as close to ideal chess as we're ever going to get...
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- ganeshkrishnan 7y agoNo, I don't think so. Remember that AlphaZero played stockfish 8 which is pretty outdated. Some of it's moves against SF was pretty amazing and you could be right but everything is speculative right now. My only vote for LC0 is that it can win against the latest iteration of SF
- sanxiyn 7y agoStockfish 8 evaluation was in 2017. In 2018, DeepMind re-did everything with Stockfish 9 and nothing changed. https://deepmind.com/blog/alphazero-shedding-new-light-grand-games-chess-shogi-and-go/ https://deepmind.com/blog/alphazero-shedding-new-light-grand...
- nestorD 7y agoI remember an annonce saying that the go branch of leela-zero had finaly reachen the level of facebook's network. It is arguably not Alpha zero but it shows that, if they have not reached the level of Alpha-zero yet, it is only a matter of time.
- mot524 7y agoI believe AlphaZero's CNN uses 40 residual layers and LC0 uses 20 layers. So in theory, AlphaZero could have twice as much chess knowledge. So that's a reason to believe that AlphaZero might be stronger than LC0. But there's no real way to know at this point.