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The planets been breaking temperature records like hotcakes while solar irradiance has been declining for decades. There is zero evidence for magnetosphere driv

The planets been breaking temperature records like hotcakes while solar irradiance has been declining for decades. There is zero evidence for magnetosphere driven climate change. What you've written is just some sciencey sounding BS that rationalizes an irrational position.

briantakita 7y ago
Except the records being broken are low temperature records. They aren't actually records in the geological sense, just measurement records in modern times. The "year without a summer" was colder for example. The magnetosphere does not drive the climate. The magnetosphere protects Earth from space weather, which includes Cosmic radiation, Coronal holes, Coronal mass ejections, etc. Are you seriously claiming that the sun has no effect on the climate? Are you claiming that the sun does not have cycles? And you call me irrational...
- breakyerself 7y ago
  >"Except the records being broken are low temperature records. " The last 5 years are the warmest 5 years in recorded history. Possibly the warmest in 110,000 years. It's also exactly how warm scientists predicted it would be with the emissions scenario that played out. I don't know what stupid blog you get your info from, but you should stop. >"The magnetosphere protects Earth from space weather, which includes Cosmic radiation, Coronal holes, Coronal mass ejections, etc." There is no evidence that cosmic or solar rays have any effect on climate. We have a good geologic record of the behavior of the magnetosphere. It doesn't correlate at all with climate data. This is from the psuedoscience blogosphere. Not actual science. The sun affects climate, but it's variability isn't as strong as the forcing from co2 and none of the warming from the last 30 years can be from the sun since the sun has been in a cooling phase.
  - briantakita 7y ago
    > There is no evidence that cosmic or solar rays have any effect on climate. So your reason to justify this idiotic statement is the no true scotsman fallacy ("Not actual science"), appeal to authority, & ad hominem? Nice! > The last 5 years are the warmest 5 years in recorded history. Possibly the warmest in 110,000 years. It's also exactly how warm scientists predicted it would be with the emissions scenario that played out. I don't know what stupid blog you get your info from, but you should stop. That's funny. All you need to do is go outside & observe how late this year's spring was. How about the late snow keeping ski resorts open? Did you happen to notice that crops are being planted late this year? How wet it is this year? The cloud cover around earth? How about record snowfall in Europe & North America? But hey, at least your sources have a temperature collection station in the middle of a black top parking lot in Tuscon, AZ. Not to mention how the average temperature has been "corrected" after the fact & the different datasets contradict each other. No manipulation of data here.</sarc>
instantwhat 7y ago
If, tomorrow, NASA, NOAA, and the UN IPCC held a joint press conference to announce surprising new evidence which indicated that anthropogenic effects on the climate were minimal, that we could not noticeably affect the climate, regardless of our emissions, and that the climate was essentially out of our control, what would your reaction be? Would that be good news or bad news? Why?
- breakyerself 7y ago
  I suppose it would be nice to know we can worry less about how we impact things, but I don't see what the point is in wishful thinking.
  - briantakita 7y ago
    Actually, global cooling & a wet spring means decreased crop yields around the world. This is a serious matter that we need to properly prepare for. Not be distracted by pseudoscience of "Anthropogenic Global Warming". We are seeing an increase of Earthquakes & Volcanic Eruptions, driven by space weather. We need to prepare accordingly. The next few winters will continue to get colder.
    - breakyerself 7y ago
      You need to lay off the fake science.
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  - instantwhat 7y ago
    Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. What I mean is, if these organizations made such an announcement, and assuming that they were correct, what would you think? Would that be good news or bad news? Why?
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briantakita 7y ago

Except the records being broken are low temperature records. They aren't actually records in the geological sense, just measurement records in modern times. The "year without a summer" was colder for example. The magnetosphere does not drive the climate. The magnetosphere protects Earth from space weather, which includes Cosmic radiation, Coronal holes, Coronal mass ejections, etc. Are you seriously claiming that the sun has no effect on the climate? Are you claiming that the sun does not have cycles? And you call me irrational...

breakyerself 7y ago
>"Except the records being broken are low temperature records. " The last 5 years are the warmest 5 years in recorded history. Possibly the warmest in 110,000 years. It's also exactly how warm scientists predicted it would be with the emissions scenario that played out. I don't know what stupid blog you get your info from, but you should stop. >"The magnetosphere protects Earth from space weather, which includes Cosmic radiation, Coronal holes, Coronal mass ejections, etc." There is no evidence that cosmic or solar rays have any effect on climate. We have a good geologic record of the behavior of the magnetosphere. It doesn't correlate at all with climate data. This is from the psuedoscience blogosphere. Not actual science. The sun affects climate, but it's variability isn't as strong as the forcing from co2 and none of the warming from the last 30 years can be from the sun since the sun has been in a cooling phase.
- briantakita 7y ago
  > There is no evidence that cosmic or solar rays have any effect on climate. So your reason to justify this idiotic statement is the no true scotsman fallacy ("Not actual science"), appeal to authority, & ad hominem? Nice! > The last 5 years are the warmest 5 years in recorded history. Possibly the warmest in 110,000 years. It's also exactly how warm scientists predicted it would be with the emissions scenario that played out. I don't know what stupid blog you get your info from, but you should stop. That's funny. All you need to do is go outside & observe how late this year's spring was. How about the late snow keeping ski resorts open? Did you happen to notice that crops are being planted late this year? How wet it is this year? The cloud cover around earth? How about record snowfall in Europe & North America? But hey, at least your sources have a temperature collection station in the middle of a black top parking lot in Tuscon, AZ. Not to mention how the average temperature has been "corrected" after the fact & the different datasets contradict each other. No manipulation of data here.</sarc>

instantwhat 7y ago

If, tomorrow, NASA, NOAA, and the UN IPCC held a joint press conference to announce surprising new evidence which indicated that anthropogenic effects on the climate were minimal, that we could not noticeably affect the climate, regardless of our emissions, and that the climate was essentially out of our control, what would your reaction be? Would that be good news or bad news? Why?

breakyerself 7y ago
I suppose it would be nice to know we can worry less about how we impact things, but I don't see what the point is in wishful thinking.
- briantakita 7y ago
  Actually, global cooling & a wet spring means decreased crop yields around the world. This is a serious matter that we need to properly prepare for. Not be distracted by pseudoscience of "Anthropogenic Global Warming". We are seeing an increase of Earthquakes & Volcanic Eruptions, driven by space weather. We need to prepare accordingly. The next few winters will continue to get colder.
  - breakyerself 7y ago
    You need to lay off the fake science.
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- instantwhat 7y ago
  Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. What I mean is, if these organizations made such an announcement, and assuming that they were correct, what would you think? Would that be good news or bad news? Why?
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