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> And yeah, it's absurd. I just moved somewhere in Ontario where every garbage bag I put at the curbside costs $2. It's absolutely amazing to stand out on garba

by mcny 7y ago

> And yeah, it's absurd. I just moved somewhere in Ontario where every garbage bag I put at the curbside costs $2. It's absolutely amazing to stand out on garbage day and see just how little people have set out. The system works. And I'll continue to advocate that nobody except perhaps the 1% should have children in developed countries. A baby won't poop any less because trash costs $2 a bag. From what I understand diapers by nature don't break down for a long time.

jeromegv 7y ago
Except there are re-usable diapers.
- Thlom 7y ago
  Tried those. They work, but require some work. The diapers must be washed, depending on the diaper type you might have to separate the fillings and the diaper before washing and put together again afterwards. You also need to insert a rice paper for the poop ... It works, but it’s more work with them than with disposable diapers. We tried reusable for our two first, but the last one we have only used disposable diapers.
- m-p-3 7y ago
  Unfortunately, most kindergarten do not accept those as it is way more work, as well as time-consuming for them.
jandrese 7y ago
There are cloth diapers, but they leak more than disposable diapers and cleaning them is less than pleasant. I have seen diaper services where you put out a bag full of dirty diapers every few days and they drop off fresh ones to replace them. My wife and I looked at them, but in the end they cost roughly twice what we would be spending on disposable diapers. Maybe our calculus would be different if trash pickup was more expensive.
- mcny 7y ago
  > There are cloth diapers, but they leak more than disposable diapers and cleaning them is less than pleasant. > I have seen diaper services where you put out a bag full of dirty diapers every few days and they drop off fresh ones to replace them. My wife and I looked at them, but in the end they cost roughly twice what we would be spending on disposable diapers. Maybe our calculus would be different if trash pickup was more expensive. I agree with you. I didn't say anything to the contrary. Perhaps it is for the best if people like me do not have any children. This is perhaps the most humane way of population control and therefore environment protection. The point is diapers are already expensive for many people. We could continue to externalize the cost of disposing them like we do now or we can force people who have children to bear the cost. There are no right or wrong answers, just choices. Previously, on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16761349 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16761349 Similar question comes up when we discuss transit. Maybe I am in a bubble in this city but people seem to agree that public transit is something New York City (and surrounding areas) must push forward. Who pays for it though[1]? [1] New Yorkers are famous for complaining about the city's subway: despite an ever-increasing rise in fares, service never seems to get any better. And even still, ticket-sales still only funds part of the New York City subway system; the city still relies on supplementary taxes and government grants to keep trains running, as fares only cover about 45 percent of the day-to-day operating costs. Capital costs (system expansions, upgrades, and repairs) are an entirely different question, and require more state and federal grants as well as capital market bonds. And New York’s system is not unique: as in other cities, New York struggles to pay existing expenses and must go into debt to pay for upgrades, that is, without raising prices. from https://outline.com/UCsyRd https://outline.com/UCsyRd
Waterluvian 7y ago
There's also biodegradable diapers. And cloth diapers.

by mcny 7y ago

jeromegv 7y ago

Except there are re-usable diapers.

Thlom 7y ago
Tried those. They work, but require some work. The diapers must be washed, depending on the diaper type you might have to separate the fillings and the diaper before washing and put together again afterwards. You also need to insert a rice paper for the poop ... It works, but it’s more work with them than with disposable diapers. We tried reusable for our two first, but the last one we have only used disposable diapers.
m-p-3 7y ago
Unfortunately, most kindergarten do not accept those as it is way more work, as well as time-consuming for them.

jandrese 7y ago

There are cloth diapers, but they leak more than disposable diapers and cleaning them is less than pleasant. I have seen diaper services where you put out a bag full of dirty diapers every few days and they drop off fresh ones to replace them. My wife and I looked at them, but in the end they cost roughly twice what we would be spending on disposable diapers. Maybe our calculus would be different if trash pickup was more expensive.

mcny 7y ago
> There are cloth diapers, but they leak more than disposable diapers and cleaning them is less than pleasant. > I have seen diaper services where you put out a bag full of dirty diapers every few days and they drop off fresh ones to replace them. My wife and I looked at them, but in the end they cost roughly twice what we would be spending on disposable diapers. Maybe our calculus would be different if trash pickup was more expensive. I agree with you. I didn't say anything to the contrary. Perhaps it is for the best if people like me do not have any children. This is perhaps the most humane way of population control and therefore environment protection. The point is diapers are already expensive for many people. We could continue to externalize the cost of disposing them like we do now or we can force people who have children to bear the cost. There are no right or wrong answers, just choices. Previously, on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16761349 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16761349 Similar question comes up when we discuss transit. Maybe I am in a bubble in this city but people seem to agree that public transit is something New York City (and surrounding areas) must push forward. Who pays for it though[1]? [1] New Yorkers are famous for complaining about the city's subway: despite an ever-increasing rise in fares, service never seems to get any better. And even still, ticket-sales still only funds part of the New York City subway system; the city still relies on supplementary taxes and government grants to keep trains running, as fares only cover about 45 percent of the day-to-day operating costs. Capital costs (system expansions, upgrades, and repairs) are an entirely different question, and require more state and federal grants as well as capital market bonds. And New York’s system is not unique: as in other cities, New York struggles to pay existing expenses and must go into debt to pay for upgrades, that is, without raising prices. from https://outline.com/UCsyRd https://outline.com/UCsyRd

Waterluvian 7y ago

There's also biodegradable diapers. And cloth diapers.