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China stopped accepting trash last year.

rootusrootus 7y ago
I thought that was recycling? Maybe we should require them to take the trash back. After all, they are manufacturing it.
- rakoo 7y ago
  What right do we have to require them to do anything ? They're not manufacturing it because they want to, they're doing it because developed nations buy it. They closed the pipes because their internal production has reached their own recycling capacity. It's time we do the same.
  - rootusrootus 7y ago
    The US doesn't really have much of a recycling problem domestically, though. We handle it fine. Lots of times that just means landfilling it, but that's actually not that terrible a solution. The upside of throwing it back at the manufacturer is that they would be forced to consider the costs of disposal as part of their bidding for new contracts. Turns it into a market problem. But ... the vibe I get from a lot of folks in this thread is that it's more about pinning all the blame on the wealthiest nations and assuming that the poorer nations aren't able to resist being exploited. I don't agree with that.
    - rakoo 7y ago
      I'm all for having the producer pay for the type of packaging he's using: plastic or polluting package should be taxed much more than, sya, cardboard. But I'm of the opinion that the one who's responsible is the one who is buying stuff in the first place. If there's no demand there's no production, and no pollution.
      - HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
        Cardboard costs trees. Trees are a renewable resource, if you have enough space. Wait, don't producers already pay for the type of packaging they use?
        rakoo 7y ago
        Everything costs something, but I think we can both agree that cardboard is more environmental-friendly than plastic. I was talking about a specific tax on pollution, like a carbon tax: the more your choices as a producer impact the environment, the more you should pay.
  - Joakal 7y ago
    What right? Well, it's not a right but a condition to sell that they must take back non recyclable/biodegradable waste that came from what they produced. That said, I'm not advocating the country takes it but the companies. In fact, China probably will adopt this sell condition policy domestically but not apply it to overseas selling.

I thought that was recycling? Maybe we should require them to take the trash back. After all, they are manufacturing it.

rakoo 7y ago
What right do we have to require them to do anything ? They're not manufacturing it because they want to, they're doing it because developed nations buy it. They closed the pipes because their internal production has reached their own recycling capacity. It's time we do the same.
- rootusrootus 7y ago
  The US doesn't really have much of a recycling problem domestically, though. We handle it fine. Lots of times that just means landfilling it, but that's actually not that terrible a solution. The upside of throwing it back at the manufacturer is that they would be forced to consider the costs of disposal as part of their bidding for new contracts. Turns it into a market problem. But ... the vibe I get from a lot of folks in this thread is that it's more about pinning all the blame on the wealthiest nations and assuming that the poorer nations aren't able to resist being exploited. I don't agree with that.
  - rakoo 7y ago
    I'm all for having the producer pay for the type of packaging he's using: plastic or polluting package should be taxed much more than, sya, cardboard. But I'm of the opinion that the one who's responsible is the one who is buying stuff in the first place. If there's no demand there's no production, and no pollution.
    - HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
      Cardboard costs trees. Trees are a renewable resource, if you have enough space. Wait, don't producers already pay for the type of packaging they use?
      - rakoo 7y ago
        Everything costs something, but I think we can both agree that cardboard is more environmental-friendly than plastic. I was talking about a specific tax on pollution, like a carbon tax: the more your choices as a producer impact the environment, the more you should pay.
- Joakal 7y ago
  What right? Well, it's not a right but a condition to sell that they must take back non recyclable/biodegradable waste that came from what they produced. That said, I'm not advocating the country takes it but the companies. In fact, China probably will adopt this sell condition policy domestically but not apply it to overseas selling.