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This article's claims fail the smell test. Ultimately we don't know what we don't know & simplistic overarching models are probably missing key components, many

This article's claims fail the smell test. Ultimately we don't know what we don't know & simplistic overarching models are probably missing key components, many of which are non-linear. 200 years is a tiny window when it comes to cosmological time. The methodology of measurement & extrapolation of data also needs public scrutiny. Interpretations of geological events are ridden with conjecture to fit an overarching narrative. Here's what we have evidence of. Earth receives the majority of it's energy from the Sun. The Sun has significant fluctuations. Earth is affected not only by infrared & visible EM, but also by higher frequencies of EM. Earth is also affected by magnetism from the Sun. Earth's Magnetosphere is affected by the Heliosphere. A weaker Magnetosphere means less protection from Cosmic Rays, Coronal Holes, CMEs, & other space weather. Cosmic Rays perturbs water, seeds clouds, induces volcanic eruptions & earthquakes. Volcanic ash & cloud cover increase albedo, which cools the earth. The "year without a summer" in 1816 (~200 years ago), was caused by the Mt. Tambora eruption. The Carrington Event happened in 1859.

briantakita 7y ago
The climate is changing. The climate is being driven by the sun. Always has & always will. The climate is changing on other planets in the Solar system, being driven by the sun, just like Earth. This whole "anthropocentric carbon climate change" scheme is a scam to funnel money away from real science & useful tech to special centralization interests that take away freedom of most people in the world. The people behind this scheme are a blight on humanity & should be arrested for fraud. The scale of their operations are orders of magnitude larger & more dangerous than Bernie Madoff.
dwaltrip 7y ago
It's not the sun: https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/14/is-the-sun-causing-global-warming/ https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/14/is-the-sun-causing-global-wa...
- briantakita 7y ago
  Except that model does not have accurate predictive qualities nor does it account for the other planets in the solar system going through climate change. What about Earth before humans? Here is a model that accurately predicts that solar cycle 24 would be weaker than cycle 23. Only 2 of 150 submitted models got that right. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Valentina_Zharkova/publication/266799418_Prediction_of_Solar_Activity_from_Solar_Background_Magnetic_Field_Variations_in_Cycles_21-23/links/559fbc8c08ae3dbcbe86d891/Prediction-of-Solar-Activity-from-Solar-Background-Magnetic-Field-Variations-in-Cycles-21-23.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Valentina_Zharkova/publ... Another thing to consider as that a weakening Heliosphere & weakening Magnetosphere means Earth is more exposed to cosmic radiation. Cosmic radiation seeds clouds, excites water, drives earthquakes & volcanic eruptions. We may have an initial period of warming due to water being excited by cosmic radiation (similar to a microwave oven), but once enough volcanoes erupt, albedo will increase to offset the warming & cause cooling, as demonstrated by the Mt. Tambora eruption in 1816.
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breakyerself 7y ago
The planets been breaking temperature records like hotcakes while solar irradiance has been declining for decades. There is zero evidence for magnetosphere driven climate change. What you've written is just some sciencey sounding BS that rationalizes an irrational position.
- briantakita 7y ago
  Except the records being broken are low temperature records. They aren't actually records in the geological sense, just measurement records in modern times. The "year without a summer" was colder for example. The magnetosphere does not drive the climate. The magnetosphere protects Earth from space weather, which includes Cosmic radiation, Coronal holes, Coronal mass ejections, etc. Are you seriously claiming that the sun has no effect on the climate? Are you claiming that the sun does not have cycles? And you call me irrational...
  - breakyerself 7y ago
    >"Except the records being broken are low temperature records. " The last 5 years are the warmest 5 years in recorded history. Possibly the warmest in 110,000 years. It's also exactly how warm scientists predicted it would be with the emissions scenario that played out. I don't know what stupid blog you get your info from, but you should stop. >"The magnetosphere protects Earth from space weather, which includes Cosmic radiation, Coronal holes, Coronal mass ejections, etc." There is no evidence that cosmic or solar rays have any effect on climate. We have a good geologic record of the behavior of the magnetosphere. It doesn't correlate at all with climate data. This is from the psuedoscience blogosphere. Not actual science. The sun affects climate, but it's variability isn't as strong as the forcing from co2 and none of the warming from the last 30 years can be from the sun since the sun has been in a cooling phase.
    - briantakita 7y ago
      > There is no evidence that cosmic or solar rays have any effect on climate. So your reason to justify this idiotic statement is the no true scotsman fallacy ("Not actual science"), appeal to authority, & ad hominem? Nice! > The last 5 years are the warmest 5 years in recorded history. Possibly the warmest in 110,000 years. It's also exactly how warm scientists predicted it would be with the emissions scenario that played out. I don't know what stupid blog you get your info from, but you should stop. That's funny. All you need to do is go outside & observe how late this year's spring was. How about the late snow keeping ski resorts open? Did you happen to notice that crops are being planted late this year? How wet it is this year? The cloud cover around earth? How about record snowfall in Europe & North America? But hey, at least your sources have a temperature collection station in the middle of a black top parking lot in Tuscon, AZ. Not to mention how the average temperature has been "corrected" after the fact & the different datasets contradict each other. No manipulation of data here.</sarc>

briantakita 7y ago

The climate is changing. The climate is being driven by the sun. Always has & always will. The climate is changing on other planets in the Solar system, being driven by the sun, just like Earth. This whole "anthropocentric carbon climate change" scheme is a scam to funnel money away from real science & useful tech to special centralization interests that take away freedom of most people in the world. The people behind this scheme are a blight on humanity & should be arrested for fraud. The scale of their operations are orders of magnitude larger & more dangerous than Bernie Madoff.

dwaltrip 7y ago

It's not the sun: https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/14/is-the-sun-causing-global-warming/ https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/14/is-the-sun-causing-global-wa...

briantakita 7y ago
Except that model does not have accurate predictive qualities nor does it account for the other planets in the solar system going through climate change. What about Earth before humans? Here is a model that accurately predicts that solar cycle 24 would be weaker than cycle 23. Only 2 of 150 submitted models got that right. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Valentina_Zharkova/publication/266799418_Prediction_of_Solar_Activity_from_Solar_Background_Magnetic_Field_Variations_in_Cycles_21-23/links/559fbc8c08ae3dbcbe86d891/Prediction-of-Solar-Activity-from-Solar-Background-Magnetic-Field-Variations-in-Cycles-21-23.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Valentina_Zharkova/publ... Another thing to consider as that a weakening Heliosphere & weakening Magnetosphere means Earth is more exposed to cosmic radiation. Cosmic radiation seeds clouds, excites water, drives earthquakes & volcanic eruptions. We may have an initial period of warming due to water being excited by cosmic radiation (similar to a microwave oven), but once enough volcanoes erupt, albedo will increase to offset the warming & cause cooling, as demonstrated by the Mt. Tambora eruption in 1816.
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breakyerself 7y ago

The planets been breaking temperature records like hotcakes while solar irradiance has been declining for decades. There is zero evidence for magnetosphere driven climate change. What you've written is just some sciencey sounding BS that rationalizes an irrational position.

briantakita 7y ago
Except the records being broken are low temperature records. They aren't actually records in the geological sense, just measurement records in modern times. The "year without a summer" was colder for example. The magnetosphere does not drive the climate. The magnetosphere protects Earth from space weather, which includes Cosmic radiation, Coronal holes, Coronal mass ejections, etc. Are you seriously claiming that the sun has no effect on the climate? Are you claiming that the sun does not have cycles? And you call me irrational...
- breakyerself 7y ago
  >"Except the records being broken are low temperature records. " The last 5 years are the warmest 5 years in recorded history. Possibly the warmest in 110,000 years. It's also exactly how warm scientists predicted it would be with the emissions scenario that played out. I don't know what stupid blog you get your info from, but you should stop. >"The magnetosphere protects Earth from space weather, which includes Cosmic radiation, Coronal holes, Coronal mass ejections, etc." There is no evidence that cosmic or solar rays have any effect on climate. We have a good geologic record of the behavior of the magnetosphere. It doesn't correlate at all with climate data. This is from the psuedoscience blogosphere. Not actual science. The sun affects climate, but it's variability isn't as strong as the forcing from co2 and none of the warming from the last 30 years can be from the sun since the sun has been in a cooling phase.
  - briantakita 7y ago
    > There is no evidence that cosmic or solar rays have any effect on climate. So your reason to justify this idiotic statement is the no true scotsman fallacy ("Not actual science"), appeal to authority, & ad hominem? Nice! > The last 5 years are the warmest 5 years in recorded history. Possibly the warmest in 110,000 years. It's also exactly how warm scientists predicted it would be with the emissions scenario that played out. I don't know what stupid blog you get your info from, but you should stop. That's funny. All you need to do is go outside & observe how late this year's spring was. How about the late snow keeping ski resorts open? Did you happen to notice that crops are being planted late this year? How wet it is this year? The cloud cover around earth? How about record snowfall in Europe & North America? But hey, at least your sources have a temperature collection station in the middle of a black top parking lot in Tuscon, AZ. Not to mention how the average temperature has been "corrected" after the fact & the different datasets contradict each other. No manipulation of data here.</sarc>