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Right after the admission scandal broke, I saw a Cal Tech grad point out that it probably wasn't a coincidence that none of the parents tried to get their kids

by btilly 7y ago

Right after the admission scandal broke, I saw a Cal Tech grad point out that it probably wasn't a coincidence that none of the parents tried to get their kids into Cal Tech, given its deserved reputation for making students work hard. Which data point confirms your observation that this varies widely by school and there are hard programs out there.

tanderson92 7y ago
Despite the Chronicle's attempt to lump Caltech in with other elite schools in not explicitly having policies which forbid this from occurring, it is nonetheless impossible as pointed out in a Q&A done by the Chronicle with various institutions. See: https://www.chronicle.com/article/We-Asked-20-Elite-College/245920 https://www.chronicle.com/article/We-Asked-20-Elite-College/... > Q. Will your university exert more oversight over how students are designated as athletic recruits in the admissions process? If so, how? > A. Caltech does not reserve admission spots for our athletic department nor do we take into account legacy status or family wealth. The main criteria in our evaluation process focuses on academic and personal performance/potential as well as demonstrated STEM passion and achievement. > Q. Does "Operation Varsity Blues" show a broader need for reform in selective admissions? > A. This case is an important reminder how hypervigilant selective admission offices need to be in evaluating candidates and their credentials.
- Anechoic 7y ago
  nor do we take into account legacy status Caltech's CDS says otherwise - http://finance.caltech.edu/documents/537-cds2019.pdf http://finance.caltech.edu/documents/537-cds2019.pdf section C7
  - tanderson92 7y ago
    Very interesting, thank you! This discrepancy I cannot explain, and will have to investigate further. It appears the answer changed in the 2005 CDS, see: http://finance.caltech.edu/Resources/cds http://finance.caltech.edu/Resources/cds (of course, for those following along, this very interesting point is unrelated to the college admissions scandal)

by btilly 7y ago

tanderson92 7y ago

Despite the Chronicle's attempt to lump Caltech in with other elite schools in not explicitly having policies which forbid this from occurring, it is nonetheless impossible as pointed out in a Q&A done by the Chronicle with various institutions. See: https://www.chronicle.com/article/We-Asked-20-Elite-College/245920 https://www.chronicle.com/article/We-Asked-20-Elite-College/... > Q. Will your university exert more oversight over how students are designated as athletic recruits in the admissions process? If so, how? > A. Caltech does not reserve admission spots for our athletic department nor do we take into account legacy status or family wealth. The main criteria in our evaluation process focuses on academic and personal performance/potential as well as demonstrated STEM passion and achievement. > Q. Does "Operation Varsity Blues" show a broader need for reform in selective admissions? > A. This case is an important reminder how hypervigilant selective admission offices need to be in evaluating candidates and their credentials.

Anechoic 7y ago
nor do we take into account legacy status Caltech's CDS says otherwise - http://finance.caltech.edu/documents/537-cds2019.pdf http://finance.caltech.edu/documents/537-cds2019.pdf section C7
- tanderson92 7y ago
  Very interesting, thank you! This discrepancy I cannot explain, and will have to investigate further. It appears the answer changed in the 2005 CDS, see: http://finance.caltech.edu/Resources/cds http://finance.caltech.edu/Resources/cds (of course, for those following along, this very interesting point is unrelated to the college admissions scandal)