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What they're doing to Huawei will have nefarious consequences to the US. Who can ever trust a country that can use this kind of tactics to destroy a comercial c

What they're doing to Huawei will have nefarious consequences to the US. Who can ever trust a country that can use this kind of tactics to destroy a comercial competitor?

hueving 7y ago
China's tactics aren't really any better (allow blatant IP theft). I suppose the only real difference was that this wasn't well-known in advance. It's like the Joker's statement about people losing their shit when something happens unannounced but being orderly when much worse is announced in advance.
- 1ta 7y ago
  China is priced in. US was not. US forgets how much of its prosperity is due to economic freedom/liberty. US is quickly becoming just another country.
- Mirioron 7y ago
  We already don't trust China though. That's the difference.
  - dis-sys 7y ago
    Who are "we" here? Readers of hacker news, or your family which you may or may not have the right to represent?
- DiogenesKynikos 7y ago
  China hasn't taken any actions comparable to this. This would be like shutting down Apple's production lines in China with no warning - essentially a coup de grace to a major tech company.
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friedman23 7y ago
> What they're doing to Huawei will have nefarious consequences to the US And what consequences do you imagine there will be?
- coliveira 7y ago
  Countries around the world will realize that it is not safe to trust in the US as a player in the global market. This may not seem big initially, but market barriers around technology will start to crop up everywhere in developed nations.
- kpremote 7y ago
  The consequences might be like this (in addition to many other possible forms): Previously, my little factory spent 100% of the budget for component x and component y on buying from American suppliers (quality and price are both very good). But going forward, we plan to spend 70% to buy from Americans, 20% from other countries, and 10% to fund demestic research, and we will reduce the 70% part as soon as we can manage. You can imagine if multiplying our small adjustment by the actions of hundreds of thousands of similar businesses around the world who are watching closely what's going on recently, then the interests of American businesses will probably be severely affected.
  - snowwindwaves 7y ago
    What you describe is already 100% what is going on with the technology transfers.
threezero 7y ago
You mean like China forcing foreign companies to turn over technology to Chinese companies to eventually be used to compete against them? Who could ever trust a country that does that, or that imprisons millions of people based on their religion?

What they're doing to Huawei will have nefarious consequences to the US. Who can ever trust a country that can use this kind of tactics to destroy a comercial competitor?

hueving 7y ago

China's tactics aren't really any better (allow blatant IP theft). I suppose the only real difference was that this wasn't well-known in advance. It's like the Joker's statement about people losing their shit when something happens unannounced but being orderly when much worse is announced in advance.

1ta 7y ago
China is priced in. US was not. US forgets how much of its prosperity is due to economic freedom/liberty. US is quickly becoming just another country.
Mirioron 7y ago
We already don't trust China though. That's the difference.
- dis-sys 7y ago
  Who are "we" here? Readers of hacker news, or your family which you may or may not have the right to represent?
DiogenesKynikos 7y ago
China hasn't taken any actions comparable to this. This would be like shutting down Apple's production lines in China with no warning - essentially a coup de grace to a major tech company.

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friedman23 7y ago

> What they're doing to Huawei will have nefarious consequences to the US And what consequences do you imagine there will be?

coliveira 7y ago
Countries around the world will realize that it is not safe to trust in the US as a player in the global market. This may not seem big initially, but market barriers around technology will start to crop up everywhere in developed nations.
kpremote 7y ago
The consequences might be like this (in addition to many other possible forms): Previously, my little factory spent 100% of the budget for component x and component y on buying from American suppliers (quality and price are both very good). But going forward, we plan to spend 70% to buy from Americans, 20% from other countries, and 10% to fund demestic research, and we will reduce the 70% part as soon as we can manage. You can imagine if multiplying our small adjustment by the actions of hundreds of thousands of similar businesses around the world who are watching closely what's going on recently, then the interests of American businesses will probably be severely affected.
- snowwindwaves 7y ago
  What you describe is already 100% what is going on with the technology transfers.

threezero 7y ago

You mean like China forcing foreign companies to turn over technology to Chinese companies to eventually be used to compete against them? Who could ever trust a country that does that, or that imprisons millions of people based on their religion?