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> You seem to be aggrieved with it, can I ask why? I think I was very clear as to why: the article heavily implies Arab-European relations were that of one-sid

by deogeo 7y ago

> You seem to be aggrieved with it, can I ask why? I think I was very clear as to why: the article heavily implies Arab-European relations were that of one-sided colonization by Europeans, when in fact, until very recently, the opposite was the case. This would be understandable if it had limited itself to more recent history, but as it stands, I consider it lying by omission.

mxfh 7y ago
That's what Said's book is for and it couldn't be much clearer: "Not for nothing did Islam come to symbolize terror, devastation, the demonic. hordes of hated barbarians. For Europe. Islam was a lasting trauma. Until the end of the seventeenth century the "Ottoman peril" lurked alongside Europe to represent for the whole of Christian civilization a constant danger" The article reflects on the impact the book had since publication, it's not even close to be mistaken for an introduction or recollection of the whole topic. https://books.google.de/books?id=npF5BAAAQBAJ&pg=PA59&dq=Not+for+nothing+did+Islam+come+to+symbolize+terror,+devastation,+the+demonic.+hordes+of+hated+barbarians.+For+Europe.+Islam+was+a+lasting+trauma.+Until+the+end+of+the+seventeenth+century+the+%22Ottoman+peril%22+lurked+alongside+Europe+to+represent+for+the+whole+of+Christian+civilization+a+constant+danger&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj9vI3f3rziAhXKQxUIHbnABZoQ6AEIKjAA#v=onepage&q=Not%20for%20nothing%20did%20Islam%20come%20to%20symbolize%20terror%2C%20devastation%2C%20the%20demonic.%20hordes%20of%20hated%20barbarians.%20For%20Europe.%20Islam%20was%20a%20lasting%20trauma.%20Until%20the%20end%20of%20the%20seventeenth%20century%20the%20%22Ottoman%20peril%22%20lurked%20alongside%20Europe%20to%20represent%20for%20the%20whole%20of%20Christian%20civilization%20a%20constant%20danger&f=false https://books.google.de/books?id=npF5BAAAQBAJ&pg=PA59&dq=Not...

by deogeo 7y ago

mxfh 7y ago

That's what Said's book is for and it couldn't be much clearer: "Not for nothing did Islam come to symbolize terror, devastation, the demonic. hordes of hated barbarians. For Europe. Islam was a lasting trauma. Until the end of the seventeenth century the "Ottoman peril" lurked alongside Europe to represent for the whole of Christian civilization a constant danger" The article reflects on the impact the book had since publication, it's not even close to be mistaken for an introduction or recollection of the whole topic. https://books.google.de/books?id=npF5BAAAQBAJ&pg=PA59&dq=Not+for+nothing+did+Islam+come+to+symbolize+terror,+devastation,+the+demonic.+hordes+of+hated+barbarians.+For+Europe.+Islam+was+a+lasting+trauma.+Until+the+end+of+the+seventeenth+century+the+%22Ottoman+peril%22+lurked+alongside+Europe+to+represent+for+the+whole+of+Christian+civilization+a+constant+danger&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj9vI3f3rziAhXKQxUIHbnABZoQ6AEIKjAA#v=onepage&q=Not%20for%20nothing%20did%20Islam%20come%20to%20symbolize%20terror%2C%20devastation%2C%20the%20demonic.%20hordes%20of%20hated%20barbarians.%20For%20Europe.%20Islam%20was%20a%20lasting%20trauma.%20Until%20the%20end%20of%20the%20seventeenth%20century%20the%20%22Ottoman%20peril%22%20lurked%20alongside%20Europe%20to%20represent%20for%20the%20whole%20of%20Christian%20civilization%20a%20constant%20danger&f=false https://books.google.de/books?id=npF5BAAAQBAJ&pg=PA59&dq=Not...