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I don't think it's up to the user to decide how data about them gets used. Regulation like GDPR only makes it more difficult (impossible) for competition to em

I don't think it's up to the user to decide how data about them gets used. Regulation like GDPR only makes it more difficult (impossible) for competition to emerge. It basically secures the future dominance of big players like Google and Facebook. Making people pay a monthly fee to get their data collected and analyzed seems like the next big business model. We will soon reach a limit on the usefulness of passively collected data and will need to switch to a more active model. I would prefer to have complete access to data about myself, but it would be unreasonable to expect a monopoly on it.

cameronbrown 7y ago
> I don't think it's up to the user to decide how data about them gets used. To a certain extent, I'd agree. Specifically in the case of things like analytics data. The real problem is people not knowing this data is being collected in the first place where you can't make any kind of informed choice on opting in.
- 8bitsrule 7y ago
  Under the GDPR, "the data is not available publicly without explicit, informed consent, and cannot be used to identify a subject without additional information stored separately. No personal data may be processed unless it is done under a lawful basis specified by the regulation, or unless the data controller or processor has received an unambiguous and individualized affirmation of consent from the data subject. The data subject has the right to revoke this consent at any time.... Data subjects have the right to request a portable copy of the data collected by a processor in a common format... violators of the GDPR may be fined up to €20 million ..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regula... Key phrases here: 'explicit, informed consent' ... 'lawful basis' ... 'right to revoke this consent' ... 'fined'
  - cameronbrown 7y ago
    I know the regulation. That's not what I'm arguing here.

cameronbrown 7y ago

> I don't think it's up to the user to decide how data about them gets used. To a certain extent, I'd agree. Specifically in the case of things like analytics data. The real problem is people not knowing this data is being collected in the first place where you can't make any kind of informed choice on opting in.

8bitsrule 7y ago
Under the GDPR, "the data is not available publicly without explicit, informed consent, and cannot be used to identify a subject without additional information stored separately. No personal data may be processed unless it is done under a lawful basis specified by the regulation, or unless the data controller or processor has received an unambiguous and individualized affirmation of consent from the data subject. The data subject has the right to revoke this consent at any time.... Data subjects have the right to request a portable copy of the data collected by a processor in a common format... violators of the GDPR may be fined up to €20 million ..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regula... Key phrases here: 'explicit, informed consent' ... 'lawful basis' ... 'right to revoke this consent' ... 'fined'
- cameronbrown 7y ago
  I know the regulation. That's not what I'm arguing here.