> I'm optimistic about its continued development though. Org is amazing, yes, but I'm not too optimistic about this - even if some of its more noticeable warts

> I'm optimistic about its continued development though. Org is amazing, yes, but I'm not too optimistic about this - even if some of its more noticeable warts got fixed (a big one, for me, is the fact that you cannot nest quote blocks), it would still represent a tree of nodes, and trees are somewhat limiting where it comes to knowledge representation. You can organize information in a tree, but it doesn't neatly fit that model, and just deciding where to put each snippet you captured can be a huge hassle. > It's good to hear that you liked the Oscean/Nataniev tools; I haven't tried them and it could easily have been all style no substance. They certainly sound impressive. From what I've read, I have a feeling there might be something worthwhile there. And XXIIVV itself looks amazing, although I know that's just one implementation. I'm not too sure, either, but I'm going to take a stab at implementing something Oscean-like. I want to see where this approach can take me.