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But everyone already speaks it. When I moved to Spain (from NL), I was flabbergasted about the level of English here; even the English teachers were impossible
by tluyben2 7y ago
But everyone already speaks it. When I moved to Spain (from NL), I was flabbergasted about the level of English here; even the English teachers were impossible to understand. But now it is rapidly changing. Same in France and Germany. When I start speaking English to someone now in either of these countries, they generally understand.
> Non-native speakers will always be seen as outsiders/2nd class.
Not in my experience. But how would you measure that; in my personal experience, the Spanish and Brits treat my wife and me like their own.
- thefounder 7y ago>>> Not in my experience. But how would you measure that; in my personal experience, the Spanish and Brits treat my wife and me like their own. Of course you can measure that! Try to get a job where communication and/or "presentation" skills are important(i.e lawyer, PR, media, investment banker etc)and see how it goes. Even the accent may cost you the job. The language skills are a handicap for any non-native speaker in the job market and not only.
- tluyben2 7y agoThat is still what you say; I do not see much proof of that. I work in banking and deal with much of what you say and I meet too many Dutch guys in those positions to think there is an issue. I was looking more for an objective measurement instead of a gut feel we both have.
- thefounder 7y agoWhat about this measurement: how many TV presenters speaking "broken english" have you seen in the UK? or broken spanish in Spain or broken dutch in Holland? I believe the number is close to zero.