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> Actual 4G (as opposed to whatever your carrier has in your area) is supposed to be capable of up to gigabit speeds Isn't what's being sold as 5G now just fin

> Actual 4G (as opposed to whatever your carrier has in your area) is supposed to be capable of up to gigabit speeds Isn't what's being sold as 5G now just finally fulfilling the promises that were made for 4G? So we'll have to wait for them to sell 6G to get what is being promised for 5G.

cududa 7y ago
Pretty much. However some folks in more rural areas were only on a fancier 3G, being told it was 4G, and now ATT telling them they’re on 5Ge.
pavs 7y ago
2 more things" - in what ungodly scenario would a consumer need 1gbps speed on their desktop, let alone on their phone. I consider myself a power internet user (I own an ISP), and even I can't think of many scenarios where I would need more than 50 Mbps of internet speed for a sustained period of time. - On mobile devices, higher speed will almost surely result in higher power usage. When consumers are asking for longer battery life on their phone - does 5g theoretical speed really gives that, much advantage over a 4g phone? I can't think of any situation where it does. In conclusion, 5g advantage is nothing more than to stimulate tech industry component sells to consumers and business, ie, 5g modems, phones, antennas, license fees for goverments, exporting tech stack to other countries. All these scenarios adds up to a huge financial market. The first country/company to be in this market will benefit from it. Thats whats its all about. I am not worried about snooping - the telcos and ISPs are already inside government's pocket for decades now under eecutive order (I am not only talking about USA here).
- HeadsUpHigh 7y ago
  >- in what ungodly scenario would a consumer need 1gbps speed on their desktop, let alone on their phone. I consider myself a power internet user (I own an ISP), and even I can't think of many scenarios where I would need more than 50 Mbps of internet speed for a sustained period of time. On demand streaming of game worlds would be a possible application imo. So instead of downloading the entire game you don't install the world locally but download it as you need it. This could give access to terabyte-sized worlds if done properly. Honestly these would be new markets rather than existing ones.
- kalleboo 7y ago
  > On mobile devices, higher speed will almost surely result in higher power usage. When consumers are asking for longer battery life on their phone - does 5g theoretical speed really gives that, much advantage over a 4g phone? I can't think of any situation where it does There are situations where "race to finish" helps with battery life. E.g. when I've taken a bunch of photos my phone starts backing them up to the cloud. If that takes 2 minutes instead of 10 and it can go back to a low-power state quicker, that's a big saving. The question is how bad is the standby power draw of 5G?

cududa 7y ago

Pretty much. However some folks in more rural areas were only on a fancier 3G, being told it was 4G, and now ATT telling them they’re on 5Ge.

pavs 7y ago

2 more things" - in what ungodly scenario would a consumer need 1gbps speed on their desktop, let alone on their phone. I consider myself a power internet user (I own an ISP), and even I can't think of many scenarios where I would need more than 50 Mbps of internet speed for a sustained period of time. - On mobile devices, higher speed will almost surely result in higher power usage. When consumers are asking for longer battery life on their phone - does 5g theoretical speed really gives that, much advantage over a 4g phone? I can't think of any situation where it does. In conclusion, 5g advantage is nothing more than to stimulate tech industry component sells to consumers and business, ie, 5g modems, phones, antennas, license fees for goverments, exporting tech stack to other countries. All these scenarios adds up to a huge financial market. The first country/company to be in this market will benefit from it. Thats whats its all about. I am not worried about snooping - the telcos and ISPs are already inside government's pocket for decades now under eecutive order (I am not only talking about USA here).

HeadsUpHigh 7y ago
>- in what ungodly scenario would a consumer need 1gbps speed on their desktop, let alone on their phone. I consider myself a power internet user (I own an ISP), and even I can't think of many scenarios where I would need more than 50 Mbps of internet speed for a sustained period of time. On demand streaming of game worlds would be a possible application imo. So instead of downloading the entire game you don't install the world locally but download it as you need it. This could give access to terabyte-sized worlds if done properly. Honestly these would be new markets rather than existing ones.
kalleboo 7y ago
> On mobile devices, higher speed will almost surely result in higher power usage. When consumers are asking for longer battery life on their phone - does 5g theoretical speed really gives that, much advantage over a 4g phone? I can't think of any situation where it does There are situations where "race to finish" helps with battery life. E.g. when I've taken a bunch of photos my phone starts backing them up to the cloud. If that takes 2 minutes instead of 10 and it can go back to a low-power state quicker, that's a big saving. The question is how bad is the standby power draw of 5G?