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I've been grappling with this for a while. I run a site/app that is a popular team based hidden roles indie board game. Apparently its full of assholes. I mea

by cozuya 7y ago

I've been grappling with this for a while. I run a site/app that is a popular team based hidden roles indie board game. Apparently its full of assholes. I mean I get it, the theme and dynamics don't lend itself to happy players really but I got nothing - I've put hundreds of hours into volunteer moderator tools and they work great, the site itself does not have a griefing/racism/hate speech problem, but it does still have an asshole problem. Not sure what else I can do, other than take credit for it. =/

cannonedhamster 7y ago
I mean, the game itself sounds like the type that would draw people who wanted to prove to others how smart or good they are from your description(PvP). I find that community/coop based games (PvE) tend to draw less assholes because of the type of people who enjoy those games.
- cozuya 7y ago
  Yeah it is the hardest of hardcore PvP games - it involves people having to lie to other people, every game. Throw in internet strangers and an ELO system and yeah it becomes an impossible thing to moderate other than "don't use hate speech or get banned". I just wish I knew what I could do better. Things like this get me down a bit. https://old.reddit.com/r/SecretHitler/comments/b9l1kv/secret_hitler_io_should_be_taken_down/ https://old.reddit.com/r/SecretHitler/comments/b9l1kv/secret...
  - cannonedhamster 7y ago
    I mean it sounds like the game is attracting the type of people who would be attracted to the title, and then sticking around for the challenge. I don't think that's a problem you really need to invest in solving. Eve online has a similar problem with the ability to rob entire months of work with betrayal. Any game where lying can lead to a positive outcome is generally going to encourage a mindset. If your players like the game then it's the niche that you're serving, doesn't seem to be anying wrong with that, they're having fun. My question to you would be are you enjoying running the game and building it, you're there now important person in this.

by cozuya 7y ago

cannonedhamster 7y ago

I mean, the game itself sounds like the type that would draw people who wanted to prove to others how smart or good they are from your description(PvP). I find that community/coop based games (PvE) tend to draw less assholes because of the type of people who enjoy those games.

cozuya 7y ago
Yeah it is the hardest of hardcore PvP games - it involves people having to lie to other people, every game. Throw in internet strangers and an ELO system and yeah it becomes an impossible thing to moderate other than "don't use hate speech or get banned". I just wish I knew what I could do better. Things like this get me down a bit. https://old.reddit.com/r/SecretHitler/comments/b9l1kv/secret_hitler_io_should_be_taken_down/ https://old.reddit.com/r/SecretHitler/comments/b9l1kv/secret...
- cannonedhamster 7y ago
  I mean it sounds like the game is attracting the type of people who would be attracted to the title, and then sticking around for the challenge. I don't think that's a problem you really need to invest in solving. Eve online has a similar problem with the ability to rob entire months of work with betrayal. Any game where lying can lead to a positive outcome is generally going to encourage a mindset. If your players like the game then it's the niche that you're serving, doesn't seem to be anying wrong with that, they're having fun. My question to you would be are you enjoying running the game and building it, you're there now important person in this.