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Interesting! I use a similar technique on https://hnprofile.com https://hnprofile.com It differs in a few key ways, largely because I’m trying to solve a diffe

Interesting! I use a similar technique on https://hnprofile.com https://hnprofile.com It differs in a few key ways, largely because I’m trying to solve a different problem. https://hnprofile.com/learn-more https://hnprofile.com/learn-more I’m curious how this solution for knowledge extraction, vs the goal of summarization holds up in practice. I suspect (as they mention on the conclusion), even though data is extracted, timing is everything. Language and information changes over time and I’m curious how multiple sets of the similar, but different data in the corpus would be represented. For instance, “I live in Japan”, vs “I lived in Japan” vs “we live in Japan” but “I visit New York” Where do I live, who are “we”, etc are still very difficult problems. Summarizations are a bit easier in that for the most part you’re just removing superfluous information.

miket 7y ago
Here is how a relation extraction system would represent these two concepts "live" (i.e. place of residence) and "visit" (a temporary location), as well as the temporality of the statements. http://relex.diffbot.com:8085/?text=I%20live%20in%20Japan.%20I%20visited%20New%20York http://relex.diffbot.com:8085/?text=I%20live%20in%20Japan.%2....
- haddr 7y ago
  Nice! What model do you use?
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tobr 7y ago
You might want to look into how to make your website GDPR compliant. I don’t think you can create a database over random EU citizens’ interests, mood and activities without permission. (Edited)
- jcims 7y ago
  Would be an interesting exercise to determine what exposure gp has to GDPR here. Theres no direct relationship to the user, just analysis of publicly accessible content. Wonder how archive.org fares.
  - lettergram 7y ago
    I usually just let the GDPR people say as they will without debate. People seem to think GDRP makes a difference.. part of my website was to point out it doesn’t. The fact is, I’m a small company, solely based outside EU jurisdiction, with anonymous accounts I monitor (and make public). For reference, I’m based out of the U.S. and don’t officially conduct business in the EU. As it stands, I’m completely unbound by the laws. Even EU customers would have to conduct business with me via U.S. dollars on a U.S. hosted server. I.e. they and myself would be bound by U.S. law, as we’d be in U.S. jurisdiction. That being said, I’m also not hosting “data from An EU citizen”. I have no way of knowing where these anonymous users are posting. If I applied this to people that I can confirm their identities, then sure. However, as it stands, I have no way of knowing who “jcims” or anyone else is.
    - hobs 7y ago
      https://gdpr.eu/companies-outside-of-europe/ https://gdpr.eu/companies-outside-of-europe/ Article 3.1 states that the GDPR applies to organizations that are based in the EU even if the data are being stored or used outside of the EU. Article 3.2 goes even further and applies the law to organizations that are not in the EU if two conditions are met: the organization offers goods or services to people in the EU, or the organization monitors their online behavior. (Article 3.3 refers to more unusual scenarios, such as in EU embassies.) You definitely are covered by the GDPR - its just a matter of how and when someone will take action against you.
      - jcims 7y ago
        Except (from same page) The second exception is for organizations with fewer than 250 employees. Small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) are not totally exempt from the GDPR, but the regulation does free them from record-keeping obligations in most cases (see Article 30.5).
anigbrowl 7y ago
Can't say I'm enthused to see your algorithmic estimation of my 'mood' for the past year offered as a commodity.
- nroets 7y ago
  I share you sentiment. But I believe his website is an expression of free speech and should not be suppressed. Perhaps I will use throw away accounts more frequently in future or just post less regularly.
  - azeirah 7y ago
    Free speech has never before included a history of moods over a period of time for any person. It's uncomfortable. Besides, don't the posts belong to either the user or to HN, so that those mood graphs can be GDPR'd?
rahimnathwani 7y ago
In the linked page: s/moral/morale

miket 7y ago

Here is how a relation extraction system would represent these two concepts "live" (i.e. place of residence) and "visit" (a temporary location), as well as the temporality of the statements. http://relex.diffbot.com:8085/?text=I%20live%20in%20Japan.%20I%20visited%20New%20York http://relex.diffbot.com:8085/?text=I%20live%20in%20Japan.%2....

haddr 7y ago
Nice! What model do you use?

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tobr 7y ago

You might want to look into how to make your website GDPR compliant. I don’t think you can create a database over random EU citizens’ interests, mood and activities without permission. (Edited)

jcims 7y ago
Would be an interesting exercise to determine what exposure gp has to GDPR here. Theres no direct relationship to the user, just analysis of publicly accessible content. Wonder how archive.org fares.
- lettergram 7y ago
  I usually just let the GDPR people say as they will without debate. People seem to think GDRP makes a difference.. part of my website was to point out it doesn’t. The fact is, I’m a small company, solely based outside EU jurisdiction, with anonymous accounts I monitor (and make public). For reference, I’m based out of the U.S. and don’t officially conduct business in the EU. As it stands, I’m completely unbound by the laws. Even EU customers would have to conduct business with me via U.S. dollars on a U.S. hosted server. I.e. they and myself would be bound by U.S. law, as we’d be in U.S. jurisdiction. That being said, I’m also not hosting “data from An EU citizen”. I have no way of knowing where these anonymous users are posting. If I applied this to people that I can confirm their identities, then sure. However, as it stands, I have no way of knowing who “jcims” or anyone else is.
  - hobs 7y ago
    https://gdpr.eu/companies-outside-of-europe/ https://gdpr.eu/companies-outside-of-europe/ Article 3.1 states that the GDPR applies to organizations that are based in the EU even if the data are being stored or used outside of the EU. Article 3.2 goes even further and applies the law to organizations that are not in the EU if two conditions are met: the organization offers goods or services to people in the EU, or the organization monitors their online behavior. (Article 3.3 refers to more unusual scenarios, such as in EU embassies.) You definitely are covered by the GDPR - its just a matter of how and when someone will take action against you.
    - jcims 7y ago
      Except (from same page) The second exception is for organizations with fewer than 250 employees. Small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) are not totally exempt from the GDPR, but the regulation does free them from record-keeping obligations in most cases (see Article 30.5).

anigbrowl 7y ago

Can't say I'm enthused to see your algorithmic estimation of my 'mood' for the past year offered as a commodity.

nroets 7y ago
I share you sentiment. But I believe his website is an expression of free speech and should not be suppressed. Perhaps I will use throw away accounts more frequently in future or just post less regularly.
- azeirah 7y ago
  Free speech has never before included a history of moods over a period of time for any person. It's uncomfortable. Besides, don't the posts belong to either the user or to HN, so that those mood graphs can be GDPR'd?

rahimnathwani 7y ago

In the linked page: s/moral/morale